Best Wax/Sealant For White car?

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Hi all! I'm new to Autogeek and YES I did use the "search feature"
with no luck.

Very simple question to what I'm going to assume will be some simple opinions.

I just purchased a new 2015 Honda Accord Sport in White. It's my first white car and when the weather warms up here in NYC I will be doing a Wash, clay, polish and sealant/wax. I would like to know what would be the best wax/sealant that will give the car a super sleek wet/slippery look?

I like what I see with this from Blackfire...

BLACKFIRE Wet-Ice Over Fire Combo

I know DoDo Juice makes a wax specifically for white cars, would that be a better option or would the Blackfire impress me more?

Thanks in advance!
 
yomaxx said:
Hi all! I'm new to Autogeek and YES I did use the "search feature"
with no luck.

Very simple question to what I'm going to assume will be some simple opinions.
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Simple reason the search function didn't answer your questions, as well as it is not such a simple question........

So a little more for you to answer.

you want a "slick slippery wet look........ do you want it bright or reflective? bright and clean? bright and watery?

Do you care about durability? What do you intend to do to "keep it up"?
 
My wifes new 2015 Sonata Limited, this is a great combo for the money it's nearly unbeatable.







 
I just bought this new 2015 Rogue, I prepped it with the new Menzerna 3-n-1 topped it with WG 3.0 Sealant then hit it the next weekend with Fuzion!



 
ronkh57 said:
Simple reason the search function didn't answer your questions, as well as it is not such a simple question........

So a little more for you to answer.

you want a "slick slippery wet look........ do you want it bright or reflective? bright and clean? bright and watery?

Do you care about durability? What do you intend to do to "keep it up"?
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Thanks for the quick response Ronkh57! I would say I'm definitely not so concerned with the car looking "Bright" I'm looking for a more reflective watery look as IMO I feel that's what makes a white car pop.

As far as upkeep i would say probably wash once a week in the spring/summer and use a product like this to keep a nice shine.

Pinnacle XMT Instant Shine Combo
 
You are going to get a lot of opinions but things to keep in mind:

- if what you are looking at is being marketed as a "white" wax, it is probably a wax with cleaners in it too, not a pure top coating wax
- durability is always a question to consider and environment. If you want the cheap, durable, bang for the buck, get Collinite 845

That being said, I'm a giant BlackFire homer and love both Midnight Sun and BlackICE (though you won't use on BlackIce on white)

If you want to fork out the dough and get the best of all worlds, go with Wolfgang Fuzion.
 
Yeah , that BF combo at $69.99 plus the prep at $19.99 is the best value, plus that would do mega coats as long as you machine apply it. When I use my Midnight Sun or Fuzion I use a small rubber spatula or small putty knife (butter knife works too) to coat the pad, I prefer 4" LC pad on my 3" Rupes. I bet I don't use but about a few grams to do the whole vehicle.
 
custmsprty said:
Yeah , that BF combo at $69.99 plus the prep at $19.99 is the best value, plus that would do mega coats as long as you machine apply it. When I use my Midnight Sun or Fuzion I use a small rubber spatula or small putty knife (butter knife works too) to coat the pad, I prefer 4" LC pad on my 3" Rupes. I bet I don't use but about a few grams to do the whole vehicle.
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You don't just pop out the BFMS from the container and wipe it on the pad? That's one of my favorite things about applying BFMS, or Fuzion or Souveran... Makes it so fast to refresh pad with product.
 
custmsprty said:
Yeah , that BF combo at $69.99 plus the prep at $19.99 is the best value, plus that would do mega coats as long as you machine apply it. When I use my Midnight Sun or Fuzion I use a small rubber spatula or small putty knife (butter knife works too) to coat the pad, I prefer 4" LC pad on my 3" Rupes. I bet I don't use but about a few grams to do the whole vehicle.
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SOLD SOLD and SOLD!

This is what I'm ordering this very moment! Like stated, this is what I've had in mind from the beginning. It seems to be the best bang for the buck. Now I hope autogeek price matches it because I can get it cheaper.

Also... I don't have a DA polisher or Flex. It says you can put the prep on by hand?
 
yomaxx said:
SOLD SOLD and SOLD!

This is what I'm ordering this very moment! Like stated, this is what I've had in mind from the beginning. It seems to be the best bang for the buck. Now I hope autogeek price matches it because I can get it cheaper.

Also... I don't have a DA polisher or Flex. It says you can put the prep on by hand?
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Yes you can, but really won't get the full machine cleaning effect, you really need that machine power to get that done. Just my take on it. But it will still clean very well. You can always get a GG^ or PC later. Just remember this shake well and especailly on the BFWD too! A little goes a lonnnggggg way. Thin is in. And with the Midnight Sun, a panel at a time, half or a third of the hood, wipe on wipe off and you'll love it. Don't let it set up. Have fun :buffing:
 
custmsprty said:
Yes you can, but really won't get the full machine cleaning effect, you really need that machine power to get that done. Just my take on it. But it will still clean very well. You can always get a GG^ or PC later. Just remember this shake well and especailly on the BFWD too! A little goes a lonnnggggg way. Thin is in. And with the Midnight Sun, a panel at a time, half or a third of the hood, wipe on wipe off and you'll love it. Don't let it set up. Have fun :buffing:
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Okay so lets say I get the GG or PC (boy I had a feeling you would be trouble) then the steps would be?

1: Wash
2: Clay
3: BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal
4: BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond
5: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax

Is this the correct process?
 
Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish not the TPS. Everything else is perfect. I got a GG6 recently having had a PC, I gotta say I give the edge to the GG. The machine what ever it is will do it better, faster and more consistently. Don't get me wrong, I love detailing but like MP says, why do it by hand when a machine can do it for you. As I've posted here before, I sell packaging equipment for a living, it's all about saving the customers labor time and increasing productivity. This is a line I put in a new wheel casting facility a year and a half ago.

 
LaFawnduh said:
You don't just pop out the BFMS from the container and wipe it on the pad? That's one of my favorite things about applying BFMS, or Fuzion or Souveran... Makes it so fast to refresh pad with product.
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I've done that in the past with Pete's 53 and Souveran. But now I prefer not too, I know a lot do, but if you ever drop it, it's done with. I feel like I get better control of how much I use doing it with the putty knife too. Some waxes tend to break apart too, especially down here in the summer Florida heat.
 
Everyone has a favorite look for white paint. Some like a rich color of white with depth while others prefer a more sterile, candy apple kind of gloss to it. It also depends on what kind of white. My Mercedes "diamond white" paint looks different than their "arctic white" paint. In fact, the Mercedes "diamond white" looks different than virtually any other white I've ever seen (as a $1600 option it should!!). But keep in mind, no white paint, by its very nature, will produce the "pop" that colors will.

If you want a real gloss, candy apple look you can't do much better than Duragloss 111 (along with the bonding agent). In a wax or hybrid, Collinite 845 gives this same general look but with a little more depth. That is to say, the shine and gloss seems to go deeper than the 111 which appears to stay on top and is more reflective, especially under street lights.

If you are looking for richness above all else I have found Griot's Pro Wax looks deep but is not really long lasting. Optimum Car Wax is a spray and very rich looking, to the point it even seems to darken the white a tad but at the same time brings out the "diamonds" in my paint.

My favorite overall for looks and durability is Sonax Net Polymer Shield. It sort of is a compromise between the candy apple but sterile gloss look and the rich, deep but darkening look. Top it now and then with Sonax Brilliant Shine (a spray wax although they call it a QD). The bonus is that Sonax repels dirt and dust better than anything I've tried and sheets water away - which I like a lot. After it dries naturally it never looks like it has even been rained on. If only NPS was a little easier to apply it would be the holy grail of detailing, at least for my white paint.

As you can tell, I've experimented with a lot of products (these I've mentioned are only a sampling) and quite frankly, that is the only way you will ever be able to truly answer your question - no one can do it for you.
 
The problem with whites, especially modern clear coated white cars (as opposed to single stage) is they just dont POP.

The key to keeping a white car looking great is to use some sort of surface cleaner or polish at least once a year. While white is no different than other colors in this respect, it shows all the environmental fallout like no other color. It is only after you clean white paint chemically is it obvious as to how dirty it gets.

There really isnt a bad product for white among the many listed above. They are all good. It is more about the process and maintenance to keep white looking pristine.
 
yomaxx said:
Okay so lets say I get the GG or PC (boy I had a feeling you would be trouble) then the steps would be?

1: Wash
2: Clay
3: BLACKFIRE Total Polish & Seal
4: BLACKFIRE Wet Diamond
5: BLACKFIRE Midnight Sun Ivory Carnauba Paste Wax

Is this the correct process?
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May I suggest Iron X after wash and before clay. On a white car you will all the contaminates start popping (purple spots ) Prepping is an important part. I used XMT 360 on wifes silver car with carnuaba wax on top and it turn out great.

I have a arctic white car and will be trying the new menzerna AIO here soon.
 
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