Brand New 2015 Golf TDI Help!

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Hello,

I've just purchased my first brand new car. I've bought over a dozen cars in the past which all required different amount of work to feel brand new, but never bought brand new. I work at a dealership, and typically we will clay the car and then apply a wax, or xzilon if they have payed for it. I have many tools and products at my disposal, and being a very big purchase for me I obviously want to go as overboard as possible. So what would you suggest for new car paint? Here is what I'm thinking..

Wash
Clay
Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish applied by flex 3401 and finishing pad
Autoglym Paint Cleanser
Likely 2 coats of Xzilon
Pure carnauba paste wax

Does this sound like a good way to start? The paint is grey so theres really only so much gloss to be had which is why I want to use to Xzilon. Also, being new paint, it seems like the perfect time to apply. The paste wax gives a more realistic deep gloss over the Xzilon which can be a bit over the top shiny. All thoughts appreciated!
 
Congrats on the new car purchase! Skip the Xzillion treatment.

You mention you want to go as overboard as possible. Equip the 3401 with the Hybrid pad line by Lake Country and grab Menzerna polishes. This is the bee's knee's. I wrote an article on extracting the maximum performance from it.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...rning-3401-menzerna-products-hybrid-pads.html

For the most protection offered grab your self a coating such as the Pinnacle Black Label Coating. Then top it with PBL Synergy.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ct-review-pinnacle-paint-coating-synergy.html

Here are the necessary products to maintain it.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/82129-product-review-pbl-maintenance-3-way.html

Happy Polishing!
 
Is there a specific reason to avoid the Xzilon? Also, how would you compare the Pinnacle to World's Best Wax? :: World's Best Wax ::
I ask because I am very close to where they make it, and it looks like it could be a comparable product.
Assuming there aren't any major imperfections on the paint, which Menzerna product would you suggest for final, final polish? Thanks!
 
Just to add context, I have free access to the xzilon. I realize that when you buy it from the dealership you are basically paying for the warranty thats included with it, less so the product itself. So while it may not be worth the $900 charged at the dealership, is there something wrong with it? I also realize it comes off with polishing.
 
There is plenty of info here to read about this product. Im not going to say anything about this product as I don't have anything nice to say.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/product-reviews/28919-does-anyone-have-experience-xzilon.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/65259-xzilon-what-use-after-applied.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...you-ever-heard-xzilon-sealant-protection.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-jeep-has-xzilon-protectant-what-use-now.html

As for your car I can not make any assumptions on there not being any imperfections in your new car. It can vary from mildly swirled to hammered from the misuse of a rotary buffer.

If I were going for a one step polish with maximum gloss I would use Menzerna SF4000. However you or I won't know what to expect until you perform a test spot to see the outcome.
 
I won't have the car for a couple of weeks, so I guess I will find out when it comes! I suspect it will be in fairly good condition, I've always had good luck with VW.

I read over some of the forums but there wasn't anything too solid- or at least not very blunt. I'm happy to hear your thoughts, even if it's all negative! It's a product I've suggested to other people, I'd certainly like to know if there any reasons to not use it.
 
I agree. Skip the Xzillion treatment. We have it at my dealership. The boss wanted me to watch the demo when they came in. Just witches brew as far as I'm concerned. The guy was asking questions about paint and I was the only one that could answer all of them. He said " you know a lot about paint don't you"? Then I told him why. These guys are just salesmen. When I started to ask him the questions that needed to be answered he just got quiet. I have a bottle never opened it. Do you work for VW? I do. The paint is hard. Use Collinite 845 after you get it prepped.
 
gaschob said:
I won't have the car for a couple of weeks, so I guess I will find out when it comes! I suspect it will be in fairly good condition, I've always had good luck with VW.
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Right on! Make sure to perform a test spot and do not let anyone prep it for you.

I read over some of the forums but there wasn't anything too solid- or at least not very blunt. I'm happy to hear your thoughts, even if it's all negative! It's a product I've suggested to other people, I'd certainly like to know if there any reasons to not use it.
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I don't mean to sound like a know it all or anything like that. I just would rather you spend your money on quality products. I don't have any experience with it but I have had fellow car owners try and push this kind of stuff on me when they find out I am a detailer. They think its the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Cila Jet is another bottle of Snake oil like Xzilion. I have seen this one being used and its just a bottle of sealant. Makes me sick what customers pay for this crap.
 
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I agree. Skip the Xzillion treatment. We have it at my dealership. The boss wanted me to watch the demo when they came in. Just witches brew as far as I'm concerned. The guy was asking questions about paint and I was the only one that could answer all of them. He said " you know a lot about paint don't you"? Then I told him why. These guys are just salesmen. When I started to ask him the questions that needed to be answered he just got quiet. I have a bottle never opened it. Do you work for VW? I do. The paint is hard. Use Collinite 845 after you get it prepped.
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Thanks for weighing in and providing more of a real world experience.
 
Anytime Mike. Just trying to keep him from making a mistake. You know half of the fun of having a nice car is waxing it. These kind of products claim things that just aren't true. People think they have a Force Field around their car. You still get rail dust, tar fallout etc. The only way to remove it is with elbow grease. We all know you only get out what you put in. I've been in the car business fro 38 years. Seen it all.
 
I use to work at Mercedes and we used it there, I'm now at Mitsubishi and they have a similar product. The one thing I liked about it was while doing customer details the water repelled off the car like no wax I've ever seen. What I didn't like is how it emphasized any minor imperfection, which is why I thought putting it on while brand new would be best. The collinite wax looks very interesting! Extremely cheap as well. Like I said, I don't have to pay for the product so I'm not concerned about price. The bigger issue is once the treatment is on it takes a lot of effort to take off again. I think I'll end up doing a light polish followed by cleanser and wax. I will post photos once it's all done!
 
WAXOFF said:
Anytime Mike. Just trying to keep him from making a mistake. You know half of the fun of having a nice car is waxing it. These kind of products claim things that just aren't true. People think they have a Force Field around their car. You still get rail dust, tar fallout etc. The only way to remove it is with elbow grease. We all know you only get out what you put in. I've been in the car business fro 38 years. Seen it all.
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Wow, 38 years? You have been around it a lot longer than I have for sure. I have 11 years Air Force Mechanic and a few more than that during my high school years tinkering with my '68 Nova I had in high school. I did repaint that car all with rattle cans. Color and clear included. ha

Anyhow I have just 5 years experience Semi Pro detailing with machines.

As you mentioned, you have been around this a long time and I'm sure you have plenty of stories to tell.
 
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