Brand new car detailing steps?

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Hello,

So I’m taking delivery of a new car, which I’ve asked the dealer not to polish before delivery as I want to do it myself, but I want to make sure I follow the right steps.

Would a first wash with something like Lift or Descale (Or both) be good? Or not since no waxes or sealants on it yet?

Follow with IronX, Claying and then polish, coating?

Also does anyone know if Koch Chemie has a Descale equivalent? It seems to be easer to find Koch Chemie around my area.

thanks.
 
Imo no point in using deacale if your going to polish unless its riddeled with hard water mineral deposits.

Wash with lift, iron x, clay then paint correct. Then prep wipe if using a coating

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I don't see how using Descale would be a bad thing.

In addition to removing water spots as mentioned, it may also remove any other products the dealership may have put on there (or put a big dent in them) and remove any other grime that's accumulated on the paint while in transport/sitting on the lot.

Polishing will remove what has built up on the surface, but I think giving the surface a deep cleaning before polishing can't be a bad thing. LEss grime for the polisher to pick up and a cleaner surface to remove defects. I always mix up my wash solution to be a bit stronger than normal whenever I get ready to polish a car.
 
Valugard ABC would be the ticket. Easy, too. You have to get it directly from them. Congrats on the new car.
 
Valugard ABC is the only decontamination system I use.
 
Prange said:
Valugard ABC would be the ticket. Easy, too. You have to get it directly from them. Congrats on the new car.
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First time hearing about this product. From what I’ve found doing a quick search, it removes the need of having to clay bar the vehicle, as well as Iron X, descale etc? Basically all in one product.

How strong is this? Is it safe on all surfaces? Reading how effective this is makes me think it’s very strong. Wouldn’t want to mess with something that can cause damage.
 
You can clay during step B if the car is really bad. I've used it on a new car. Just got to be cautious and use common sense
 
Desertnate said:
I don't see how using Descale would be a bad thing.

In addition to removing water spots as mentioned, it may also remove any other products the dealership may have put on there (or put a big dent in them) and remove any other grime that's accumulated on the paint while in transport/sitting on the lot.

Polishing will remove what has built up on the surface, but I think giving the surface a deep cleaning before polishing can't be a bad thing. LEss grime for the polisher to pick up and a cleaner surface to remove defects. I always mix up my wash solution to be a bit stronger than normal whenever I get ready to polish a car.
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Its not a bad thing, just more product used and more time as well. I aim to be as effective with my time and my money, weither im doing oir personal vehicles or getting paid for it. I understand that my mindset may differ from others. To each their own though.

In my experience with descale, it has only been noticeably effective if used as a bucket wash. Lift being an higher alkiline soap should do a better job at cleaning road grime and such off.

Like i said..to each their own.

At the end of the day, if i dont have to use more products and time than nessesary then im not going to. It all adds up.

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opie said:
Its not a bad thing, just more product used and more time as well. I aim to be as effective with my time and my money, weither im doing oir personal vehicles or getting paid for it. I understand that my mindset may differ from others. To each their own though.

In my experience with descale, it has only been noticeably effective if used as a bucket wash. Lift being an higher alkiline soap should do a better job at cleaning road grime and such off.

Like i said..to each their own.

At the end of the day, if i dont have to use more products and time than nessesary then im not going to. It all adds up.

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Agreed. Descale doesn’t even make the claim that it is effective at removing road grime and traffic film. I use it as directed, to remove mineral buildup on coated cars, which it is great at or for light water spotting. I have seen Descale remove an old sealant and wax but if you’re going to polish that’s a moot point. Descale is great when used as intended but it looks like Lift or Touchless are better suited for this cleaning.
 
Optimus Grime said:
Agreed. Descale doesn’t even make the claim that it is effective at removing road grime and traffic film. I use it as directed, to remove mineral buildup on coated cars, which it is great at or for light water spotting. I have seen Descale remove an old sealant and wax but if you’re going to polish that’s a moot point. Descale is great when used as intended but it looks like Lift or Touchless are better suited for this cleaning.
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Well said.

Touchless is stronger, in my experience. Lift is a good product dont get me wrong, it just dont have the omphh.

I do however mostly just reserve my jug of touchless for winter, thats the only time i find i need something that potent..when concerning our own vehicles that is

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opie said:
Well said.

Touchless is stronger, in my experience. Lift is a good product dont get me wrong, it just dont have the omphh.

I do however mostly just reserve my jug of touchless for winter, thats the only time i find i need something that potent..when concerning our own vehicles that is

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I love Touchless and Auto Foam but using them in a foam cannon takes so much product. With my pressure washer it takes 13.5 ounces to get a 4% PIR so I bought an IK Foam Pro 12 and Jerry rigged my own compressor attached to it. If my math is correct, and I hope it is since I’m a teacher, I now use 62% less Auto Foam/Touchless to achieve a 4% PIR. After two bottles of Auto Foam the Foam Pro 12 will have paid for itself.
 
opie said:
In my experience with descale, it has only been noticeably effective if used as a bucket wash. Lift being an higher alkiline soap should do a better job at cleaning road grime and such off.
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Optimus Grime said:
Agreed. Descale doesn’t even make the claim that it is effective at removing road grime and traffic film. I use it as directed, to remove mineral buildup on coated cars, which it is great at or for light water spotting. I have seen Descale remove an old sealant and wax but if you’re going to polish that’s a moot point. Descale is great when used as intended but it looks like Lift or Touchless are better suited for this cleaning.
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It's interesting that CarPro has so many products so similar, but slightly different in Descale and Lift. Makes it difficult to decide which to use when you need something stronger than a normal soap.

I've not used Descale personally, but my daughter just used it on her and her husband's cars recently. They had taken a beating this summer from their neighborhood sprinklers and just general neglect due to work schedules. She hit them both with a bucket wash and noticed a really big change. Most of the water spotting was removed, but she also noticed it cut through the general road grime and bugs pretty effectively and the cars looked cleaner than they have in quite a while, even when compared to bucket washing with the Griots soap they have on hand.

If I only had to one "heavy duty" soap on hand to cover all bases, I'm not sure what I'd do, based on what you all have mentioned.
 
Desertnate said:
It's interesting that CarPro has so many products so similar, but slightly different in Descale and Lift. Makes it difficult to decide which to use when you need something stronger than a normal soap.

I've not used Descale personally, but my daughter just used it on her and her husband's cars recently. They had taken a beating this summer from their neighborhood sprinklers and just general neglect due to work schedules. She hit them both with a bucket wash and noticed a really big change. Most of the water spotting was removed, but she also noticed it cut through the general road grime and bugs pretty effectively and the cars looked cleaner than they have in quite a while, even when compared to bucket washing with the Griots soap they have on hand.

If I only had to one "heavy duty" soap on hand to cover all bases, I'm not sure what I'd do, based on what you all have mentioned.
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Sounds like descale worked well for your daughter, thats good. In that situation i would have prescribed the same treatment.

When im doing my prewash, im going for more of a high alkaline over acidic.

Been using up my bottle of Carpro lift. I also have two gallons of Decon from Armour Detail Supply. Once im out of lift, ill be sticking with decon.

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