Browning of tire after cleaning?

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Hey guys. Just joined a few days ago. I need some help. I have TufShine Tire Cleaner and I used it today for the first time. I used it with a Meguiars Tire Brush.

After I cleaned it and they started to dry after rinsing, my tires are brown now. Is it normal? How do I make it go black to being black?

And to clarify, the tires were not brown before cleaning. They did have 2 month old Black Magic Tire Gel on them. The tires are new-ish, my car only has 9k miles.

Pics, tires were still wet in some spots.

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Thanks everyone :xyxthumbs:
 
SYMAWD said:
Keep cleaning them.
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+1. How many times did you do the Tuf Shine cleaning? I find most times I need to do it 4-5 times (each "time" = spray, scrub, rinse). You want to keep cleaning them until they no longer produce brown foam. When the foam is white, they are clean.

I recommend using the Tuf Shine brush also.
 
[QUOTE=wdmaccord; I find most times I need to do it 4-5 times (each "time" = spray, scrub, rinse). You want to keep cleaning them until they no longer produce brown foam. When the foam is white, they are clean.

+ 1 you described the procedure perfectly
 
Probably normal - IF - you got white foam when cleaning with TS Tire Cleaner. However, I'm not familiar with the Meg's brush. You need the stiff nylon TS brush. Really, it's the best brush out there for tires.
 
A good answer is Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew....
 
Thanks everybody!!! This is such an awesome place! Going to get back out there on it!

jamesboyy said:
yes its normal your tires are just blooming(aging) just apply some tire dressing and everything should be good and welcome to autogeek

check this out

Tire Detailing DetailingSpot
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Ok will do after I clean then some more :)
SYMAWD said:
Keep cleaning them.
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Will do
Flash Gordon said:
Wipe with lacquer thinner
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I will definitely keep that in mind! I dont even know what that is lol
wdmaccord said:
+1. How many times did you do the Tuf Shine cleaning? I find most times I need to do it 4-5 times (each "time" = spray, scrub, rinse). You want to keep cleaning them until they no longer produce brown foam. When the foam is white, they are clean.

I recommend using the Tuf Shine brush also.
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I did it 2 times, but I was skimpy with it. Foam was still brown. This is also the first time for cleaning these tires with more than soap and water since I never had a specific tire product
BobbyG said:
No kidding! Does it keep the browning away longer or just an easier way to remove it?

I'll give it a try...........when it stops snowing...
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LOL I'm taking advantage of a 60 degree break in snow/ice crap !
jamesboyy said:
wdmaccord; I find most times I need to do it 4-5 times (each "time" = spray said:
Ok I will do that now!
swanicyouth said:
Probably normal - IF - you got white foam when cleaning with TS Tire Cleaner. However, I'm not familiar with the Meg's brush. You need the stiff nylon TS brush. Really, it's the best brush out there for tires.
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I didn't....oops. I will keep cleaning. The Mothers one is stiff nylon. I almost bought the TS brush
Bunky said:
A good answer is Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew....
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I'll definitely keep that in mind as well if it doesnt get better with more cleaning!
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Don't be skimpy. Soak the tire good and let it sit 30 seconds or so before you start scrubbing. I've found it works better with the tire off the car so I can lay it down. That way all the product doesn't run down to the bottom of the tire. Get that TS brush on your next order from AG too! It has stiff short bristles, so it scrubs really well. :xyxthumbs:
 
I can't help but wonder what happens to the agent/(agents)
that's responsible for the tire's inherent---engineered, necessary(?)---blooming (browning) processes...
when it becomes sealed-up behind Tire Coatings like TufShine and Infinity Shield.


Bob
 
BobbyG said:
No kidding! Does it keep the browning away longer or just an easier way to remove it?

I'll give it a try...........when it stops snowing...
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It removes the brown. Bye bye brown tire!
 
FUNX725 said:
I can't help but wonder what happens to the agent/(agents)
that's responsible for the tire's inherent---engineered, necessary(?)---blooming (browning) processes...
when it becomes sealed-up behind Tire Coatings like TufShine and Infinity Shield.


Bob
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The agent, antiozonant, is protecting the tire from ozone. When they meet (oxidation) it turns brown.

Tires are designed to push the antiozonant toward the surface during rotation, so covering it up doesn't harm or affect its performance.
 
It is caused by the removing of the black carbon from the rubber. Rubber is naturally cream colored(laytex) and the blackboard added to give the rubber durability and abrasion resistance. It isn't from aging. I caused this to happen to a new tire by spraying Purple Power citrus cleaner on it. It was basically like I bleached the black out of the rubber. From the looks of it in OP's pic, he has scrubbed the black out of it on the high spot of the side wall where he is probably applying the most pressure/attention. Try to even out your scrubbing and don't let the cleaner start to dry. This should even out the color. The lacquer thinner is probably gonna be the quickest way to even it out though.
 
wdmaccord said:
Don't be skimpy. Soak the tire good and let it sit 30 seconds or so before you start scrubbing. I've found it works better with the tire off the car so I can lay it down. That way all the product doesn't run down to the bottom of the tire. Get that TS brush on your next order from AG too! It has stiff short bristles, so it scrubs really well. :xyxthumbs:
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I did 2 more passes with it but I'm going to call it a night and go at it again this weekend. Its dark, I dont want the pure brown water from the tire running in the garage, and I'm tired lol.
ShaunD said:
It is caused by the removing of the black carbon from the rubber. Rubber is naturally cream colored(laytex) and the blackboard added to give the rubber durability and abrasion resistance. It isn't from aging. I caused this to happen to a new tire by spraying Purple Power citrus cleaner on it. It was basically like I bleached the black out of the rubber. From the looks of it in OP's pic, he has scrubbed the black out of it on the high spot of the side wall where he is probably applying the most pressure/attention. Try to even out your scrubbing and don't let the cleaner start to dry. This should even out the color. The lacquer thinner is probably gonna be the quickest way to even it out though.
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Everyone else said that I wasn't srubbing enough, but its possible I scrubbed the black out of it?

Its brownest right where the tire meets the rim (that little smooth section) and its brown at the edge of the sidewall where the tread starts. The middle high spot is actually not too brown. The 3rd pass I was getting brown foam everywhere, 4th pass the middle of the tire was white foam after scrubbing, and if I scrubbed pretty hard on the smooth part right by the rim I could get light brown foam still. I'm going to see how it looks in the daylight tomorrow, now I'm freaked out about scrubbing too hard lol
 
It will always come back. They are made to do that as not to let the tire dry out. This keeps them soft and not dry rot
 
Bkazzle said:
The agent, antiozonant, is protecting the tire from ozone. When they meet (oxidation) it turns brown.

Tires are designed to push the antiozonant toward the surface during rotation, so covering it up doesn't harm or affect its performance.
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I know about the antiozonant, blooming, et al...But:

After it gets, as you put it: pushed towards the surface
(Can it really just hang around at the surface?)...
where as I propose that it then: can't get out;
What happens to it?

If/Is it no longer needed to protect the tires by blooming/browning/oxidizing...
(eventually becoming depleted): What happens to it?

That was the gist of my previous post.

Again:
Can antiozonants really just hang around at the surface of a "Coated" tire?

Bob
 
Do not let me deter the antizonant convo, I would love for it to continue.

Just wanted to update for anyone reading this, I scrubbed the crap out of the tires 2 more times and the brown is 95% gone. Only remains right where the tire meets the rim which I apparently didn't work enough. I will remove it all this weekend, and will keep in mind that if I want to be lazy one day I can just apply tire shine over the top of it to make it go back to black. I have PERL to try :xyxthumbs:

That Tuf Shine Tire Cleaner is NO joke! My tires look like they are literally brand new! Oh yea, I'm going to love this hobby :xyxthumbs:
 
FUNX725 said:
I can't help but wonder what happens to the agent/(agents)
that's responsible for the tire's inherent---engineered, necessary(?)---blooming (browning) processes...
when it becomes sealed-up behind Tire Coatings like TufShine and Infinity Shield.


Bob
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Nothing happens.
 
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