California duster and ceramics

[Neatfreak2000]

Ok. So I recognize that touching your car is almost always worse than not touching your car. And putting anything dry against a dry car is the worst...

BUT...

I hear all of this “9H! 10H! Even slight swipes against tree branches don’t scratch my car now that I have ultra spaceforce9000 ceramic coating on it!”

So if these ceramics are so good at protecting against light scratching...shouldn’t a light touch with Microfiber or original California duster be just fine? Are we really to believe that these unbelievable space-age ceramics that are as hard as diamonds would scratch because a microfiber lightly brushed lightly up against it?

/flame on

 

[PaulMys]

Ok. So I recognize that touching your car is almost always worse than not touching your car. And putting anything dry against a dry car is the worst...

BUT...

I hear all of this “9H! 10H! Even slight swipes against tree branches don’t scratch my car now that I have ultra spaceforce9000 ceramic coating on it!”

So if these ceramics are so good at protecting against light scratching...shouldn’t a light touch with Microfiber or original California duster be just fine? Are we really to believe that these unbelievable space-age ceramics that are as hard as diamonds would scratch because a microfiber lightly brushed lightly up against it?

/flame on

Coatings or no coatings, I have never subscribed to the idea that lightly touching your paint with a clean, soft MF or duster as you mentioned is that bad.

And if it is, I really haven't seen the evidence. I can't spend all my time worrying about some microscopic swirl I might instill over keeping my paint looking good.

Now if we are talking a Black 1970 Hemi 'Cuda garage queen worth a cool million, then yeah OK.

As for me, I need this hobby to be enjoyable. Otherwise, what's the point?

 

[FUNX650]

•I don’t allow myself to get all worked-up over
such products’ claims as has been presented.

•Because, after all is said and done, IMO:
-All of the marketing hype that goes into the
selling of “The (Original) California Duster” is
just as believable as all of the marketing hype
that goes into the selling of Ceramic Coatings.


‘Six of one; half dozen of another.’ ~Anonymous


Bob

 

[Neatfreak2000]

•I don’t allow myself to get all worked-up over
such products’ claims as has been presented.

•Because, after all is said and done, IMO:
-All of the marketing hype that goes into the
selling of “The (Original) California Duster” is
just as believable as all of the marketing hype
that goes into the selling of Ceramic Coatings.


‘Six of one; half dozen of another.’ ~Anonymous


Bob

So then dusters scratch ceramic coated cars.


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[PaulMys]

So then dusters scratch ceramic coated cars.


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Any time that any paint with any product is touched, it "scratches" it.

It might be so minuscule, that you cannot discern it without specialty tools.

That being said, don't worry about it!!

All we can do is use the best practices, and live worry free.

JMO>>>>>>

 

[FUNX650]

So then dusters scratch ceramic coated cars.

[Let’s see...dusting involves some touching;
dusters touching ceramic coated cars. :grouphug:]


•Ok, I believe I’ve got it:
-Can point-of-care testing (POCT),
officially, ever give a positive result?


Bob

 

[PaulMys]

Just to add:

Sometime later this month (hopefully) or more likely in early May, I will be able to grab my GG6, Correcting Cream, LC flat pads, and undo all of the *Catastrophic damage I have so carelessly inflicted over the past year by keeping my paint shiny and protected.

*Meaning my careful washing with multiple mitts, proper drying with drying aids, etc. (Which will still, introduce SOME form of imperfections). OH the horror my truck endures!

Point being: Lighten up on this guys, and have FUN!! (X?)

 

[Billy Baldone]

I get the OPs point. Which is why most of the industry has moved to waterless/rinseless washing. It adds a much needed lubricant for removing dust, to minimize the potential damage. Now if we are talking about a self healing coating, a California duster won't really matter

 

[Neatfreak2000]

Just to add:

Sometime later this month (hopefully) or more likely in early May, I will be able to grab my GG6, Correcting Cream, LC flat pads, and undo all of the *Catastrophic damage I have so carelessly inflicted over the past year by keeping my paint shiny and protected.

*Meaning my careful washing with multiple mitts, proper drying with drying aids, etc. OH the horror my truck endures!

Point being: Lighten up on this guys, and have FUN!! (X?)

Methinks you are the only one taking it seriously LOL

 

[PaulMys]

Methinks you are the only one taking it seriously LOL

Maybe, or maybe just stir-crazy from the Quarantine.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

I use to usr a california car duster on the interior. Wouldn’t use on a coating even if i could. It is still going to be more abrasive than something with a libricant and NO coating is going to give you diamond hardness


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[acuRAS82]

The one upside of the duster vs taking a dry MF against a dry paint surface which horrifies everyone here to imagine... the dusters seem to keep the static charge and “seem” to pick up most dust while barely brushing the surface. Given, I only have daily drivers, the dusters don’t terrify me. I’m with PaulMys on this one. For a DD if you want no microscopic swirls, drive your dirty car around for a year. If you want the car to look nice, you’ll be touching it in some way and if you choose the ease of a duster when the car has slight dust only, I don’t personally think you’ll notice issues... and then eventually you polish and start the swirl-touching process over from scratch again.

With that said, I have 3 dusters which I don’t really use because I’m a wash guy.

 

[Neatfreak2000]

I use to usr a california car duster on the interior. Wouldn’t use on a coating even if i could. It is still going to be more abrasive than something with a libricant and NO coating is going to give you diamond hardness


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Agreed but if a coating can protect from even light swipes from a tree branch as some claim, it should be able to protect from a light touch from a microfiber brush...

 

[acuRAS82]

Agreed but if a coating can protect from even light swipes from a tree branch as some claim, it should be able to protect from a light touch from a microfiber brush...

I don’t think most of us believe the “swipes from a tree branch” claim to begin with, or at least I’m speaking for myself.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Agreed but if a coating can protect from even light swipes from a tree branch as some claim, it should be able to protect from a light touch from a microfiber brush...

Yes it’s protecting your paint. Meaning the coating takes the scratch not your paint. The carduster would micro mar your coating. Your paint would be fine.

It is their to take the lumps for your paint. Doesn’t make it impervious to damage to itself


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[Neatfreak2000]

Yes it’s protecting your paint. Meaning the coating takes the scratch not your paint. The carduster would micro mar your coating. Your paint would be fine.

It is their to take the lumps for your paint. Doesn’t make it impervious to damage to itself


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Interesting. So do you use a car duster?


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[vobro]

Agreed but if a coating can protect from even light swipes from a tree branch as some claim, it should be able to protect from a light touch from a microfiber brush...

You’d have to ask yourself if they are marketing tree branch impacts, another company shows a cup of nuts and bolts being emptied onto a hood and the ever present light the paint on fire stunt, how much do you believe it? To me anyone can market anything in any fashion and hope people believe it, to me it’s common sense.

You asked a question on the California duster, the same company that says “ it works best when dirty”. Common sense? What other product do you know of that works better when dirty? The coatings offer many benefits, easier cleaning,longer lasting and ease of mind that I know that it’s there working even in the nastiest weather. They are not force fields, they aren’t impenetrable shields and they ain’t magic, improper maintenance will still lead to undesirable results.

 

[Neatfreak2000]

You’d have to ask yourself if they are marketing tree branch impacts, another company shows a cup of nuts and bolts being emptied onto a hood and the ever present light the paint on fire stunt, how much do you believe it? To me anyone can market anything in any fashion and hope people believe it, to me it’s common sense.

You asked a question on the California duster, the same company that says “ it works best when dirty”. Common sense? What other product do you know of that works better when dirty? The coatings offer many benefits, easier cleaning,longer lasting and ease of mind that I know that it’s there working even in the nastiest weather. They are not force fields, they aren’t impenetrable shields and they ain’t magic, improper maintenance will still lead to undesirable results.

Oh I get all that.

I’m just wondering if anyone who believes that coatings can protect from micro scratches uses a car brush.

Following that logic a California duster should be absolutely no issue for a car with a ceramic coating.

 

[vobro]

Oh I get all that.

I’m just wondering if anyone who believes that coatings can protect from micro scratches uses a car brush.

Following that logic a California duster should be absolutely no issue for a car with a ceramic coating.

I would bet not many on this forum uses a brush but everyone else has different goals and swirls don’t bother them. Some may put the time savings or ease of use on big trucks or vans ahead of perfection. Again my thinking is common sense, if you care about your paint take the precautions on maintenance, if all you want is a clean “shiny “ car and don’t notice minor swirls then hey have at it.

 

[Neatfreak2000]

I would bet not many on this forum uses a brush

But why? If a ceramics protect so well then they should EASILY protect from a light flick of a microfiber duster...?

That’s the core of the question I’m asking.

I have no dog in the fight. Just curiosity. I ‘risk’ using a brush on rare occasions when my car has been sitting in the garage for a couple days and a light dust has fallen on it. I am fine with the potential micro scratches I’m inflicting.