Can Coat Evo application curiosity question

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I applied Can Coat Evo last evening to the wife's car. Obviously a very simple and easy product to use. Background info is weather was raining and Temps were in low 90's, very humid.

I applied the product and was going along nicely for about the first 1/3 of the car. Then wipe off and actually even the application, got a bit trickier as product started to get "sticky" and grabby. I was using a microfiber application pad. I flipped the applicator over and it got super easy once again.

I'm thinking I may have oversaturated the pad a bit and as it started to dry on the pad, it got sticky. Does that make sense, or do you all speculate weather may have played a role? This was my first go with that product.

Overall a still very easy and hopefully successful application. I did the full monty regarding prep, so I hope the durability is there.
 
It sounds like the pad was getting too much product and drying on you. Was it one of the rectangular coating applicators? I used those for regular Can Coat but going forward may just use the mf towel provided.
 
I think both humidity and over saturation on the pad may have been the culprit. The carriers still left on the paint and not evaporating quick enough will cause some tackiness during wipeoff.

I used Cancoat Evo for the first time this past weekend. My garage was warm and humid. And I also used a MF round applicator pad. I made a effort to try to reapply to the pad as LITTLE as possible to avoid over application. This was a little challenging as too little would make it difficult to SEE exactly where I had applied on the paint. And too much would cause the tackiness situation you described. I found working it into the paint just a little longer with the applicator pad did the trick for a easier wipeoff, as best as possible given the environment conditions.
 
I'm thinking the humidity was playing a large role. I recently applied Cancoat Evo for the first time. Since I was applying it outside, I used the rectangular microfiber pad. In general, I like to prime my applicator pads and I did this with Cancoat Evo as well. I had no issues like you described. I think the dry air at the time of application was the difference for me.
 
Yeah, using the same applicator for too long can lead to this, especially in high humidity. This is why many coatings still come with a block and suede towel, so you can swap them out as they become over saturated and start to cure in the towel.

I now use the Autofiber coating applicators and they are large so I only use half of one side at a time and can rotate it as I go and if it's a coating that requires more layers, then I'll use the other side of the applicator.
 
Are applicators preferred over the provided mf towel? Now that I think about it, I did get some grabbiness at times and it was very humid the day I applied it. One thing with CC is you really should buff it off immediately.
 
CleanIT said:
It sounds like the pad was getting too much product and drying on you. Was it one of the rectangular coating applicators? I used those for regular Can Coat but going forward may just use the mf towel provided.
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Yes it was the rectangular microfiber pad.
 
It's the applicator pad being too wet.

I use CanCoat a LOT and in my experience, the key is NOT to use an applicator but rather a rag. I use 16x16 short-knap microfiber rags like this:

Edgeless 365 | The Rag Company


Spray 2-4 spritzes of CC-EVO on one side of a folded rag and wipe across the panel or section of a panel and then "flip" over to the other side and buff off. You can use that same applicator side you spritzed the first time for 1-2 panels tops. No more. I typically do 1 panel at a time, then flip to a completely clean unused section of that rag and do the same thing....spritz, flip, buff and so on.

WHen you've exhausted the rag for both applications and wiping by flipping to clean sections, then drop it in a bucket of soapy water for laundering. AVOID over-wetting the application section or you'll ruin the rag as it will begin to harden. If you avoid that and drop them in soapy water, you'll be fine to use and re-use them.

Ditch the applicator pad as it's really not necessary and can make things more difficult.

As a prior step, I HIGHLY recommend you use GYEON's PRimer as the base polish. Makes the application of all their coatings far easier and especially so for CanCoat.

Hope my feedback makes sense and helps.
 
What an amount of great information from you all. I had done a few searches but didn't read any threads older than 2020. Sure wish I had read "CanCoat Application Problems" thread before I used it last evening. I have certainly read and noted all the information and already look forward to giving the product another go. As always thanks to you all!
Kevin
 
TTQ B4U said:
It's the applicator pad being too wet.

I use CanCoat a LOT and in my experience, the key is NOT to use an applicator but rather a rag. I use 16x16 short-knap microfiber rags like this:

Edgeless 365 | The Rag Company


Spray 2-4 spritzes of CC-EVO on one side of a folded rag and wipe across the panel or section of a panel and then "flip" over to the other side and buff off. You can use that same applicator side you spritzed the first time for 1-2 panels tops. No more. I typically do 1 panel at a time, then flip to a completely clean unused section of that rag and do the same thing....spritz, flip, buff and so on.

WHen you've exhausted the rag for both applications and wiping by flipping to clean sections, then drop it in a bucket of soapy water for laundering. AVOID over-wetting the application section or you'll ruin the rag as it will begin to harden. If you avoid that and drop them in soapy water, you'll be fine to use and re-use them.

Ditch the applicator pad as it's really not necessary and can make things more difficult.

As a prior step, I HIGHLY recommend you use GYEON's PRimer as the base polish. Makes the application of all their coatings far easier and especially so for CanCoat.

Hope my feedback makes sense and helps.
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I don't have Primer, but I do have Carpro Essence, have you used Essence before applying CanCoat?

If so, did it help with application or should I bite the bullet and buy Primer?

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Do you pay attention to Gyeon’s recommendation with Primer to wait 24 hours before coating or if less than 24 hours to use a panel wipe?

Directions for use:

  • Use GYEON Q2 Primer with a waxing or jewelling pad on a dual action or rotary polisher.
  • If you intend to apply a paint coating directly after using GYEON Q2 Primer, an IPA wipe down will be necessary. However, if you wait 24 hours after using GYEON Q2 Primer, no wipe down is necessary.
 
CanCoat can cure pretty fast in the applicator in the right conditions. And it will start to gel up on the applicator. Flip sides half way. Only a spray or two is needed.

DETAILROOKIE said:
I don't have Primer, but I do have Carpro Essence, have you used Essence before applying CanCoat?

If so, did it help with application or should I bite the bullet and buy Primer?

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A primer is not a requirement for a coating. A panel wipe is recommended with them as well.

It won’t feel any different in my experience regardless of the polish used.

dgage said:
Do you pay attention to Gyeon’s recommendation with Primer to wait 24 hours before coating or if less than 24 hours to use a panel wipe?

Directions for use:

  • Use GYEON Q2 Primer with a waxing or jewelling pad on a dual action or rotary polisher.
  • If you intend to apply a paint coating directly after using GYEON Q2 Primer, an IPA wipe down will be necessary. However, if you wait 24 hours after using GYEON Q2 Primer, no wipe down is necessary.
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A panel wipe is recommended even after 24 hours. Primer like Essence still uses lubricating agents which may not be fully broken down.

noorth said:
TTQ + Paul A, do you guys apply cure over cancoat?
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Only needed if the coating is going to be exposed to moisture which includes morning dew within 24 hours.
 
I have only used Can Coat once so far, but I decided on a TRC Pearl Applicator and a couple of the white Gyeon towels.



Temperature on the day was 17 deg c / 62 deg f and I did flip the applicator over halfway. Application was pretty easy, but I will be sure to note the above warnings regarding hot, humid weather.

I also applied Cure as the car was not going to spend the night in my care.

 
Thanks Guz, i know the recommendation. I was just wondering if anyone has any experience not using cure for outside application. The contact angle between the 2 is significant, i really don't want to put cure over cancoat.

I might just try one panel and see how it looks.
 
noorth said:
Thanks Guz, i know the recommendation. I was just wondering if anyone has any experience not using cure for outside application. The contact angle between the 2 is significant, i really don't want to put cure over cancoat.

I might just try one panel and see how it looks.
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Don’t use cure if moisture is not in the forecast. Moisture can cause the curing of the coating to not bond well and have poor hydrophobics.
 
The Guz said:
Don’t use cure if moisture is not in the forecast. Moisture can cause the curing of the coating to not bond well and have poor hydrophobics.
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Hmmm, i never thought of that before. I was using reload to protect the coating as they say.

i'm going to skip cure - still pickup 100ml if it doesn't work - and see how it goes considering how much cancoat you get. If it doesn't bond i will just re-apply!

Thanks Guz! I finally made up my mind. :D
 
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