CanAm Spyder paint correction

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Anyone have any experience doing paint correction on a Can Am Spyder?
For those of you who don't know, the Spyder uses all plastic panels on it.
My Spyder is black and as I am doing paint correction on it I am not getting the same results as I do when I work on a car.
Is it due to plastic panels vs metal?
I am also wondering if it is the quality of paint that BRP (The company that makes Can Am) uses as well.


Here is what I have tried and I still see some scratches, I can see them but I can't feel them with my finger nail. It's almost like the scratches were in the plastic panel and they painted it and clear coated at the factory and sent it out the door.

Washed the bike with a Purple power boat wash so I know it would strip any old wax or polish off of it.

My first panel I did I used the
TURTLE WAX HYBRID SOLUTIONS CERAMIC POLISH & WAX, I had seen the car that Mike had done and he used the product so I thought I would try it..
After doing one panel, I found that it was hard to wipe off the residue, and you have to use a damp microfiber to remove the high points and then use a dry microfiber to dry it, so I am using 3 towels. This would take forever and I felt disappointed with my results, It sure did not look as good as it did on the car Mike did. I realize his years of experience probably helped with the results.
I used my G8 3" polisher since the Spyder has so many small panels and curves and bends in them. I used white lake country flat pads for polish, was not impressed so I thought I would switch to the Orange cutting pads by Lake Country pads and tried it again. I really did not see any difference. still a pain to remove the residue and takes 3 towels.
I did 6- 8 passes on the panel.

2nd panel: Next up I used Mequiar's ultimate compound with LC orange pads followed up with Meguiar's Ultimate polish, with LC white polishing pad. 6- 8 passes. Pretty much the same the results but much easier to remove the residue, only one towel needed. Less time to do then the Turtle wax.

3rd panel: I tried the Griot's complete compound and complete polish, Orange pads on both the first time then used the orange pad with the compound and white with the polish. About the same as the Meguiar's.

One thing to note on the compounds, I noticed the Griot's complete compound did a better job of removing deeper scratches.

So now I have tried 3 different products and while the bike looks better I am not wowed but I feel it's because of the plastic panels/paint vs metal/paint.
Once I am finished I plan to use Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.

So any Ideas, thoughts or experience with working on plastic panels?

If I buy any more products right now I think my wife may kill me. hahahaha

Sorry for the long winded post but I wanted to provide as much information as possible.

Looking forward to hearing what thoughts everyone has.



 
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Because this is your first post to the forum,

Welcome to AutogeekONline! :welcome:


I saw you posted this late last night so sorry I missed it. I typed out a TON of information yesterday and still never got everything I needed to get done done.



Anyone have any experience doing paint correction on a Can Am Spyder?

For those of you who don't know, the Spyder uses all plastic panels on it. My Spyder is black and as I am doing paint correction on it I am not getting the same results as I do when I work on a car.
Is it due to plastic panels vs metal?

I am also wondering if it is the quality of paint that BRP (The company that makes Can Am) uses as well.

Great questions. I've never worked on one of these before but think they're really cool.



Here is what I have tried and I still see some scratches, I can see them but I can't feel them with my finger nail. It's almost like the scratches were in the plastic panel and they painted it and clear coated at the factory and sent it out the door.

Important info.




Washed the bike with a Purple power boat wash so I know it would strip any old wax or polish off of it.

My first panel: I did I used the TURTLE WAX HYBRID SOLUTIONS CERAMIC POLISH & WAX, I had seen the car that Mike had done and he used the product so I thought I would try it.. After doing one panel, I found that it was hard to wipe off the residue, and you have to use a damp microfiber to remove the high points and then use a dry microfiber to dry it, so I am using 3 towels. This would take forever and I felt disappointed with my results,

I used my G8 3" polisher since the Spyder has so many small panels and curves and bends in them. I used white lake country flat pads for polish, was not impressed so I thought I would switch to the Orange cutting pads by Lake Country pads and tried it again. I really did not see any difference. still a pain to remove the residue and takes 3 towels. I did 6- 8 passes on the panel.

For those reading this into the future, here's my review for this product.

Review: Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Polish & Wax


The BEAST and Hybrid Solutions Polish & Wax

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BEFORE

Now that the car has been washed and clayed, next it's time to take a look at the swirl level using a swirl finder light.

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Yep - them be swirls....

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AFTER

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AND.... not sure if you saw this in the REVIEW section, but here's what I wrote,


Mike Phillips said:

The only thing I would recommend to anyone that's going to use this product is to wipe it off within a brief time after application. It can be a tick sticky if you leave it on to long. I don't remember what if any the directions were for drying time, but wiping off sooner is easier than wiping off not sooner.

I've used a lot of cleaner/waxes in my life and many by recognized name brands and this product works as good and actually better than most. Except for the sticky wipe-off, it's a darn good product. And the price is hard to beat.




It sure did not look as good as it did on the car Mike did. I realize his years of experience probably helped with the results.

Nah.... that paint was easy to polish and the product worked great. Wiped off a tick hard but worked great - at least on this "paint system"




2nd panel: Next up I used Mequiar's ultimate compound with LC orange pads followed up with Meguiar's Ultimate polish, with LC white polishing pad. 6- 8 passes. Pretty much the same the results but much easier to remove the residue, only one towel needed. Less time to do then the Turtle wax.

3rd panel: I tried the Griot's complete compound and complete polish, Orange pads on both the first time then used the orange pad with the compound and white with the polish. About the same as the Meguiar's.

One thing to note on the compounds, I noticed the Griot's complete compound did a better job of removing deeper scratches.


Interesting. I know Griot's introduced the Complete Compound and Complete Polish as an more entry level products compared to their BOSS line of products. I tested and reviewed the Complete Compound and Polish on an old 2-doory Plymouth and while they worked great, I did find the wipe of to be a tick sticky.

How to use Griot's Garage to detail your car - A detail job Richard Griot would be proud of!

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So now I have tried 3 different products and while the bike looks better I am not wowed but I feel it's because of the plastic panels/paint vs metal/paint. Once I am finished I plan to use Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.

I feel your paint, or as I like to say,


I feel your pain -Bill Clinton

I feel your paint -Mike Phillips :)


So any Ideas, thoughts or experience with working on plastic panels?

If I buy any more products right now I think my wife may kill me. hahahaha

Been there done that but happy to say, still alive.



Sorry for the long winded post but I wanted to provide as much information as possible.

Looking forward to hearing what thoughts everyone has.

Do you live within driving distance of Stuart, Florida? If so, bring her on down and and I would love to take a stab at it.



If not - then PM me your shipping address and I'll send you 2 products to test out.


Apologies for the late reply, at some point each day I MUST push away from the keyboard or I'll end up divorced.

:)
 
Oh duh....

I just saw you live in Indianna....

So PM me your shipping address, I'll send you a few other products to test out.

If possible, lets see a picture of that bad boy!


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As a person that shares a LOT of pictures in the forum world using the best way, which is to upload pictures to a gallery so the pictures have an actual cyber home with an actual cyber address, I completely understand that the majority of people don't know how to do this and don't have the patience or wherewithal to figure it out.


So with that said, here's the easy way, simply get the TapaTalk App on your phone. Links below for the type of phone you have.


Link for TapaTalk for iPhone


Link for TapaTalk from Google Play


I don't have a tutorial on how to then use the App but I figure it out and if I can do it - most of you should be able to look at the interface and with a little experimenting - figure it out.


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Hi Mike,
Thank you for your reply, I know you are a busy man and I wasn't expecting any answers right away.
I will send you my info in a PM and I will get some picture uploaded.

As far as wiping off the turtle wax as soon as I was done with a 18 x 18 small area I was wiping off the turtle wax before going on to the next area on the panel.
 
Hi Mike,
Thank you for your reply, I know you are a busy man and I wasn't expecting any answers right away.

I will send you my info in a PM and I will get some picture uploaded.

Copy that. :)


As far as wiping off the turtle wax as soon as I was done with a 18 x 18 small area I was wiping off the turtle wax before going on to the next area on the panel.

I would have to revisit the product to update my thoughts.

I know upper management and marketing at Hybrid Solutions have all been sent the link to my review so they've seen my feedback. For what it's worth.

Hang in there - I"m happy to long-distance work with you to find a process that makes all your hopes and dreams come true.

You're hoping and dreaming about a beautiful, shiny Can Am Spyder right?


:D
 
Here is my Spyder
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The front pic, half of the back (RH side of it), the the pic of the front end facing right are the sides I have been working on so far.
The pic with the front end facing left has not been touched.
 
Same scratch just different angle, I can feel this with my fingernail
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Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk
 
Example of what the paint looks like
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Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk
 
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Where i have done paint correction
The fender still looks bad to me, the one panel you can see the reflection of the clouds in the sky.
But overall to me the paint still looks dull.
Maybe I am just expecting to much?
 
I know the pictures are not the best. It's hard to take pictures of a black bike. hahaha
 
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