Car Wash and No Rinse for Hard Water

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Need some advice on two questions. What would you recommend for a car wash with extremely hard water and intense sun (Tampa)? It is a constant battle against water spots. I find myself cleaning the car early (7:30ish am) to combat the sun.
The other question is after reading and learning about rinseless wash (was new to me) what would you recommend for the same water/sun conditions? The purpose would be to clean a week long dust accumulation. The car sees about 35-40 miles a week. Thanks in advance.
 
Dodo supernatural soap or add a ounce of ONR to your normal wash soap.
 
I also have very hard water in my area.
As mentioned from loudog2,add some ONR
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I picked up this system and did a wash in the mid-day sun-NO water spots.I did a thread on it.
I'm abosultely thrilled with the several washes I did with it so far :)
 
Save your money. Add 1/2 ounce of ONR and you won't have any water spots. It completely neutralizes minerals in water. I have washed cars in the blazing sun and have never had water spots since I started adding ONR to my favorite car soap.
 
silverfox said:
Save your money. Add 1/2 ounce of ONR and you won't have any water spots. It completely neutralizes minerals in water. I have washed cars in the blazing sun and have never had water spots since I started adding ONR to my favorite car soap.
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I'm just curious,is your water very hard?
I tried just adding ONR to bucket washes and I get spots (thou less than without ONR) but my water must be full of calcium and others.
 
Are we talking about rinsing the car soap off? I thought that if the soap was ph-neutral it wouldn't leave water spots?
 
ONR is the way to go. I added some to the bucket wash and the rinse water just rolled off the vehicle. Made for an easy dry with only 1 WW towel. ONR can also be used as rinseless wash.
 
ONR for the rinseless, Dodo and any other recommended soaps? Thanks for the input.
 
for ONR washes just get yourself some distilled water from the grocery store..wont leave any spots behind. As for the what soap to add to regular wash..I dont understand why this is always asked..So what you add a soap to the water that might soften it up some..as soon as you take your hose and rinse it all down and you just sprayed your car with the hard water again that soap does not help one bit to stop spots after rinsing.
 
05xrunner said:
for ONR washes just get yourself some distilled water from the grocery store..wont leave any spots behind. As for the what soap to add to regular wash..I dont understand why this is always asked..So what you add a soap to the water that might soften it up some..as soon as you take your hose and rinse it all down and you just sprayed your car with the hard water again that soap does not help one bit to stop spots after rinsing.
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:iagree:
 
For the conditions you described, and if you have a high concentration of TDS (total disolved solids/minerals) such as sodium, calcium, iron, or copper; or anions such as chloride or bromide in your water supply (especially noticable on dark paints)...

Then this

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^ It is what it is... I have always been of the mindset of doing it right:D If you find that something else works well for you and you are happy with it, then so be it. I have an extremely hard water supply and tried all kinds of things (including ONR, and different soaps). I found that this was the best solution to my problem when dealing with dark paint. I am sure that the OP will try ONR, etc. and I am offering up this solution if he is still not happy (I know I wasn't, but then again I'm a little obsessed).
 
I found that misting Adam's detail spray on the paint before drying helps to prevent water spots. It even works on dark colors. It is also one of the only detail sprays that I have found that is used to aid in drying. It has something in it that keeps the minerals from drying out onto the paint.
 
IOMCAMARO said:
I found that misting Adam's detail spray on the paint before drying helps to prevent water spots. It even works on dark colors. It is also one of the only detail sprays that I have found that is used to aid in drying. It has something in it that keeps the minerals from drying out onto the paint.
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I'm glad you are happy with it, I wished it would have worked better for me. I have used ADS as well but did not have the same results as you. Water spots are created as the water evaporates and leaves mineral deposits behind. The only true way to remove minerals from water is through a demineralization process in which mineral ions are removed. Deionization (one such way of demineralization) is a physical process which uses specially manufactured ion exchange resins which bind to and filter out the mineral salts from water. Because the majority of water impurities are dissolved salts, deionization produces a very high quality/purity water. It works well for me when nothing else would give me the level of satisfaction I was looking for.
 
DARK HORSE said:
I'm glad you are happy with it, I wished it would have worked better for me. I have used ADS as well but did not have the same results as you. Water spots are created as the water evaporates and leaves mineral deposits behind. The only true way to remove minerals from water is through a demineralization process in which mineral ions are removed. Deionization (one such way of demineralization) is a physical process which uses specially manufactured ion exchange resins which bind to and filter out the mineral salts from water. Because the majority of water impurities are dissolved salts, deionization produces very high purity water. It works well for me when nothing else would give me the level of satisfaction I was looking for.
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And as they always say, "To each their own." :xyxthumbs: I would love to have your set up by the way. I just can't justify the price since I start college in September.
 
Also I would rather touch the paint as little as possible. By using the CR and the MB I hardly ever have to put a towel to paint...;)
 
DARK HORSE said:
Also I would rather touch the paint as little as possible. By using the CR and the MB I hardly ever have to put a towel to paint...;)
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Yup I've been looking into the mini Master Blaster. It's only 80 dollars. I just haven't seen any reviews on it yet.
 
Sorry I can't help. I don't have any experience with that model.
 
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