Carpet steaming and extracting.

[Luket]

I wanted to do a thorough job using my steamer and water extractor. ( both roughly $150 a piece. So you get the quality of units in question )
I will steam before I use the water extractor.
Should I spray the carpet cleaning solution first before I steam. Then use the water extractor.
or
Should I steam, then after the steaming. Apply the carpet cleaning solution. Then hit it with the water extractor?
Thanks

 

[David Puddy]

I (a DIYer who only works on his own cars) use a Bissell Spot Clean Pro that's probably about the same quality and performance as whatever machine you're using. I don't have a steam cleaner, but my process for carpets is vacuum, spray with cleaning solution, agitate with a drill brush (usually soft, medium for tougher stains), then extract with the Bissell filled with hot water.

It sometimes takes a few passes to get all the solution out of the carpet fibers, but the results are actually really good. FWIW, I use Chemical Guys Fabric Clean (only CG product I use) diluted 20:1.
There's plenty of people here who can probably offer more and better advice, but that's what's worked for me.

 

[Rsurfer]

I wanted to do a thorough job using my steamer and water extractor. ( both roughly $150 a piece. So you get the quality of units in question )
I will steam before I use the water extractor.
Should I spray the carpet cleaning solution first before I steam. Then use the water extractor.
or
Should I steam, then after the steaming. Apply the carpet cleaning solution. Then hit it with the water extractor?
Thanks

I would do the latter.

 

[ducksfan]

I would spray your cleaner (Boil some water, put in a pump sprayer, add your chems, spray), agitate, and then use the extractor. If there is a lot of dirt coming out, I would repeat.

Shouldn't be any reason to use your steamer with the extractor. I would only use the steamer for light soiling. And then, I would use it with a rag attachment and a cleaner that doesn't need rinsing ( 303 MSC, Procyon, something like that).

 

[TTQ B4U]

If you're going to use two different machines then here's the process.

1. Pre-Treat with your cleaning solution. Use a spray bottle or garden sprayer and agitate it into the carpet to distribute the product on the fibers. This is the first step even with a professional extractor. Let dwell per instructions.

2. Next hit with steam while simultaneously following the steamer path with the extractor.


The key is using pH balanced products. The pre-treatment should be no more than 9-9.5 pH and the rinse agent mixed into the water extractor would conversely be around a pH of 3 to 3.5

Do NOT over-saturate the material with water. Usually best practice is to extract with hot water once and then just suction twice, overlapping the previous area.

Hope that helps.

 

[Luket]

Thanks above. The reason for using both steam and extractor was to eliminate some odors. I already did a extensive water extractor job. The smell didnt come out. So just for my piece of mind. Before I use a ozone machine I wanted to detail it one more time with a different approach . Steam and extractor.
So I was debating on when to apply the concentrate shampoo in a pump sprayer.. ( just a walmart carpet and odor remover shampoo.)
Before steam and extracting. Or steam first then shampoo then extract.

 

[TTQ B4U]

Thanks above. The reason for using both steam and extractor was to eliminate some odors. I already did a extensive water extractor job. The smell didnt come out. So just for my piece of mind. Before I use a ozone machine I wanted to detail it one more time with a different approach . Steam and extractor.
So I was debating on when to apply the concentrate shampoo in a pump sprayer.. ( just a walmart carpet and odor remover shampoo.)
Before steam and extracting. Or steam first then shampoo then extract.

Look into Chlorine Dioxide too. Better and safer than Ozone. Faster too. 40 minute treatment vs multiple 2hr treatments.

 

[Luket]

thx will research it

 

[Luket]

I just bought a ozone generator.. which works better ozone or chlorine. maybe use both ?

 

[TTQ B4U]

I just bought a ozone generator.. which works better ozone or chlorine. maybe use both ?

I have both, used ozone for years, moved into more formalized commercial cleaning training as my wife and I have rental properties, etc. that I assist and sometimes maintain along side the property mgt company we use. I've since shelved my ozone machines and moved to ClO2. Again, even if all things were equal result wise, ClO2 is faster and safer.

Both are gases mind you; ozone is made of three oxygen atoms, chlorine dioxide is made of two oxygen atoms and a chlorine atom. The difference is seen comparing the oxidation strength & oxidation capacity. Cl02 is effective at lower concentrations and is far less reactive than ozone on surrounding materials such as fabrics and plastics. When left exposed too long, ozone causes surfaces and materials to deteriorate where that doesn't happen with ClO2. Chlorine only reacts with sulphuric substances, amines and some other reactive organic substances. It is also more effective when large amount of organic matter is present aka molds, etc.

Short story, less chlorine dioxide is required to obtain an active residual disinfectant affect and it targets smoke and odors at their source more effectively and in less time with near no risks to surrounding materials.

If you have Ozone, use it. If you're doing detailing for others, I would advise you look into ClO2 and go through some training on carpet extraction and interior commercial cleaning. The knowledge and skills you will learn are priceless.

 

[Rocko9999]

I have both, used ozone for years, moved into more formalized commercial cleaning training as my wife and I have rental properties, etc. that I assist and sometimes maintain along side the property mgt company we use. I've since shelved my ozone machines and moved to ClO2. Again, even if all things were equal result wise, ClO2 is faster and safer.

Both are gases mind you; ozone is made of three oxygen atoms, chlorine dioxide is made of two oxygen atoms and a chlorine atom. The difference is seen comparing the oxidation strength & oxidation capacity. Cl02 is effective at lower concentrations and is far less reactive than ozone on surrounding materials such as fabrics and plastics. When left exposed too long, ozone causes surfaces and materials to deteriorate where that doesn't happen with ClO2. Chlorine only reacts with sulphuric substances, amines and some other reactive organic substances. It is also more effective when large amount of organic matter is present aka molds, etc.

Short story, less chlorine dioxide is required to obtain an active residual disinfectant affect and it targets smoke and odors at their source more effectively and in less time with near no risks to surrounding materials.

If you have Ozone, use it. If you're doing detailing for others, I would advise you look into ClO2 and go through some training on carpet extraction and interior commercial cleaning. The knowledge and skills you will learn are priceless.

What would a dosage for a truck interior be? I recently bought a battery air pump/diffuser and (5) 20g Cl02 tablets. Would (1) 20g tablet be a starting point for slightly musty smell in my truck?

 

[dgage]

What would a dosage for a truck interior be? I recently bought a battery air pump/diffuser and (5) 20g Cl02 tablets. Would (1) 20g tablet be a starting point for slightly musty smell in my truck?

With the picture TTQ B4U shared in the Ozone Generator post below, it looks like he uses 1 20g Reset tablets for 40 minutes with the air pump/vaporizer. And based on what TTQ B4U stated as well as the Reset website, 1 20g tablet should be enough for a car/truck/suv.
Ozone Generator Experts

 

[ducksfan]

Does anyone have experience with Safrax Clo2 tablets? About 5x the product for the same price as Reset.

 

[TTQ B4U]

With the picture TTQ B4U shared in the Ozone Generator post below, it looks like he uses 1 20g Reset tablets for 40 minutes with the air pump/vaporizer. And based on what TTQ B4U stated as well as the Reset website, 1 20g tablet should be enough for a car/truck/suv.
Ozone Generator Experts

That is correct. 20 is enough for up to 100 sq ft.

 

[Rocko9999]

That is correct. 20 is enough for up to 100 sq ft.

Ok, did 20g in 5oz of water with air pump for 24hours. Still pretty chlorine-ish smelling. I still smell the slight remnants of that darn odor bomb. Worth another 20g dose in your opinion?

 

[dgage]

By the way, I did my first chlorine dioxide treatment in my son’s (used) car and it initially had a pretty strong chemical smell but also cleaned the seats at the same time. He aired it out some the next day and is happy with the way it smells and more importantly looks (cleaned/extracted upholstery). A very happy son makes a very happy dad, especially when he did most of the work and I played instructor/supervisor.

 

[Jayfro]

By the way, I did my first chlorine dioxide treatment in my son’s (used) car and it initially had a pretty strong chemical smell but also cleaned the seats at the same time. He aired it out some the next day and is happy with the way it smells and more importantly looks (cleaned/extracted upholstery). A very happy son makes a very happy dad, especially when he did most of the work and I played instructor/supervisor.

Which chlorine dioxide did you use?
Thx
JF


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[dgage]

I looked at various USB-based aquarium pumps/aerators but ended up going with the setup TTQ B4U uses, which can be purchased from Clean Serv Inc. And this includes the Reset chlorine dioxide 20g tablets (100g bag). I ordered some more Eneloop rechargeable batteries (AA) so I can run the air pump on rechargeable power (with D size adapters). I also ordered a USB fan (Arctic Breeze Mobile) off the Big A to get some air flow within the vehicle.

 

[Rocko9999]

By the way, I did my first chlorine dioxide treatment in my son’s (used) car and it initially had a pretty strong chemical smell but also cleaned the seats at the same time. He aired it out some the next day and is happy with the way it smells and more importantly looks (cleaned/extracted upholstery). A very happy son makes a very happy dad, especially when he did most of the work and I played instructor/supervisor.

Did you clean anything with the CL02 liquid? I see Reset brand recommends that you spray a liquid mixture in combo with the vapor treatment for more effectiveness.

 

[dgage]

Did you clean anything with the CL02 liquid? I see Reset brand recommends that you spray a liquid mixture in combo with the vapor treatment for more effectiveness.

We cleaned the interior with an enzyme cleaner, spot treatments, and upholstery cleaner before extracting seats, armrest, door card, and rear hatch carpet. Then I sprayed P&S Finisher (contains peroxide) but that was all a part of cleaning the interior. I only used the chlorine dioxide as a vapor, I didn't do any spraying of the chlorine dioxide in liquid form.