Matt@flyingchipmunk
New member
- Sep 1, 2015
- 85
- 0
Figured I would add my 2 cents about Ech2O and provide a video.
Test subject: 2014 BMW 335xi Black. It was corrected and coated with WB Uber Ceramic about 14 months ago; Reload was applied about 8 months ago. As we all know black is the ultimate test of swirls, haze, streaks... pretty much everything that can be a pain in the rear will be with a black car.
This is my daily driver, it sees about 650 miles/week in the Boston area so it gets used and abused by all the elements. I last washed it about a little more than a week ago and since has been through 2 snow storms.
I did 3 tests: 1:25 quick detail, (1:25) cut 1:10 with reload, and 1:200 rinseless wash.
Quick thoughts before we get to the video. The scent is a subtle sterile like smell, reminds me of an ER room at a hospital. I intentionally over saturated all 3 test areas. I wanted to capture on video for folk how it streaks and how it buffs out. If anyone has a love/hate relationship with Reload they know what I'm talking about. You'll see in all 3 tests the product absolutely does streak, but a quick buff with a dry towel takes it right out. Nothing like Reload, which can be an absolute pain to get the streaks out (remember black BMW here
).
That said I still found I had to be very vigilant with a final/extra buff stage. Best stated as, "if you think you've got all the streaks out, go over it one more time."
On to the video, sorry it's a bit long, feel free to skip parts you aren't interested in.
Specifics:
Test 1 - 1:25 quick detail. The snow had mostly melted and some deposits were on the paint. Towel got extra wet from melted snow puddles, had to use 2nd towel to dry it. Not product fault just circumstance. Watch closely the final buff where I do circles. You'll see the streaks and how easy they come out.
Test 2 - I cut the 1:25 quick detail 1:10 with Reload. Application and removal was pretty similar, no big difference in streaking. A huge plus here is compared to Reload by itself this was infinitely faster/easier to deal with. I'll have to see how this section holds up but this may very well be my new go-to topper formula.
Test 3 - Rinseless wash 1:200 on a very dirty panel. I pre soaked with a sprayer 1:200 and I applied enough so you can see how it behaves. This is far more than I would normally apply for a presoak but it was interesting. Compared to Uber Rinseless I found it didn't "hang" on the vertical panel as long. It started running down the panel like a barbarian sprinting to battle. For the price point of Ech2O I will probably not use it for presoaking. I don't see enough extra benefit of it as a presoak vs other options for the price point IMO.
The Rinseless wash itself was very easy. It felt a little bit slicker than Uber. Again having to be vigilant with an extra buff pass. Watch closely in the upper left area below the handle, I almost missed a streaky area.
Great glossy results. To get the same "pop" using Uber I would have to top it. So if you're looking for a greater "pop" and are going to do an extra pass with another product you may very well end up saving time just using Ech2O.
Small note - don't let this stuff dry to anything, especially 1:1. Was not easy to wash off measuring cup.
Cheers!
-Matt
edit: adding straight link to video if the embedded link above doesn't work
https://vimeo.com/198527630
Test subject: 2014 BMW 335xi Black. It was corrected and coated with WB Uber Ceramic about 14 months ago; Reload was applied about 8 months ago. As we all know black is the ultimate test of swirls, haze, streaks... pretty much everything that can be a pain in the rear will be with a black car.
This is my daily driver, it sees about 650 miles/week in the Boston area so it gets used and abused by all the elements. I last washed it about a little more than a week ago and since has been through 2 snow storms.
I did 3 tests: 1:25 quick detail, (1:25) cut 1:10 with reload, and 1:200 rinseless wash.
Quick thoughts before we get to the video. The scent is a subtle sterile like smell, reminds me of an ER room at a hospital. I intentionally over saturated all 3 test areas. I wanted to capture on video for folk how it streaks and how it buffs out. If anyone has a love/hate relationship with Reload they know what I'm talking about. You'll see in all 3 tests the product absolutely does streak, but a quick buff with a dry towel takes it right out. Nothing like Reload, which can be an absolute pain to get the streaks out (remember black BMW here
).That said I still found I had to be very vigilant with a final/extra buff stage. Best stated as, "if you think you've got all the streaks out, go over it one more time."
On to the video, sorry it's a bit long, feel free to skip parts you aren't interested in.
Specifics:
Test 1 - 1:25 quick detail. The snow had mostly melted and some deposits were on the paint. Towel got extra wet from melted snow puddles, had to use 2nd towel to dry it. Not product fault just circumstance. Watch closely the final buff where I do circles. You'll see the streaks and how easy they come out.
Test 2 - I cut the 1:25 quick detail 1:10 with Reload. Application and removal was pretty similar, no big difference in streaking. A huge plus here is compared to Reload by itself this was infinitely faster/easier to deal with. I'll have to see how this section holds up but this may very well be my new go-to topper formula.
Test 3 - Rinseless wash 1:200 on a very dirty panel. I pre soaked with a sprayer 1:200 and I applied enough so you can see how it behaves. This is far more than I would normally apply for a presoak but it was interesting. Compared to Uber Rinseless I found it didn't "hang" on the vertical panel as long. It started running down the panel like a barbarian sprinting to battle. For the price point of Ech2O I will probably not use it for presoaking. I don't see enough extra benefit of it as a presoak vs other options for the price point IMO.
The Rinseless wash itself was very easy. It felt a little bit slicker than Uber. Again having to be vigilant with an extra buff pass. Watch closely in the upper left area below the handle, I almost missed a streaky area.
Great glossy results. To get the same "pop" using Uber I would have to top it. So if you're looking for a greater "pop" and are going to do an extra pass with another product you may very well end up saving time just using Ech2O.
Small note - don't let this stuff dry to anything, especially 1:1. Was not easy to wash off measuring cup.
Cheers!
-Matt
edit: adding straight link to video if the embedded link above doesn't work
https://vimeo.com/198527630
