CarPro's Denim orange peel removal pad TESTED....WOW!!!!

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SpeedFreak81

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I've been wanting to try these pads out for quite a while, but was waiting for the right opportunity. Well the time has finally come, as a previous client of mine just purchased a new to him '06 CLK55 AMB Benzo. He brought the car by last week, and upon looking it over could immediately tell that the whole driver's side had been repainted. It was absolutely FULL of orange peel. Rather than spending the time sanding, I decided to give the denim orange peel pads a try! This review is part of full correction for this vehicle, and the rest of the car will follow once the work is complete. I'll start a new thread dedicated to the correction as a whole at that time.

From Car Pro's website: 5 1/4" Denim Orange Peel Removal Pad (V2)

With our CarPro USA Velvet and Denim Orange Peel Removal pads you can now remove or substantially reduce orange peel in the top layer without sanding. While removing orange peel and deep defects you are also polishing the paint rather than leaving sanding marks which reduces the steps needed afterwards.



denim_pad_135mm__09983.1355284074.780.780 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr

New to Version 2:
  • Multiple Diameter pads available
  • Foam Interlayer changed from 3/8" to 3/16"
  • Redesigned foam interlayer for more effective orange peel removal
  • Redesigned without holes for longer durability

  • Reduce Orange Peel and deep defects while simultaneously polishing paint
  • Equivalent to 2000 grit sandpaper with out the dulling of paint and sanding haze
  • Reduce Orange Peel without sanding
  • Orange peel removal without the haze generated by sanding
  • Polish the paint while removing the ridges of orange peel
  • Less dust and clean up prior to finishing polish


  • Attach to hook & loop backing plate with rotary polisher for best results.
  • Apply a few drops to paint or pad according to your skills and preference
  • Work a 2' x 2' section or larger to keep heat down as needed but remember the larger the area the more time it will take to level orange peel and defects.
  • Begin working polish on low speed for a pass.
  • Step up speed to approximately 1100 rpm (adjust as needed)
  • With proper lighting observe the level of orange peel removal while you work noting precise surface contact without pressure to level ridges.
  • After completing each section wipe off paint with soft microfiber towel
  • Brush pad in direction of fibers to remove residue
  • Apply a couple more drops of polish for next section
  • Switch out pads as needed when cut has been compromised and set aside to clean by hand.



Well, I'll let the results speak for themselves, but I was STUNNED at what I was able to achieve with these pads!! I used my Rupes Bigfoot 21 on speed 6 with Meguiar's M105 Ultra Cut Compound. Not only did the combo literally destroy the orange peel, it left a nearly flawless finish behind. NOTE: No finishing polish was used for these shots, they were after compound/orange peel pad ONLY. In an industry where time is literally money, this product has impressed me. Compared to sanding by hand or machine, then compounding, finishing; the time savings is huge.

The only con with these pads is they seem to cake up pretty quickly. I was roughing them up with my nylon pad cleaner brush after each pass, but was only able to do about a 4'x4' section before I had to switch to a fresh pad. I would suspect the level of build up would correlate to the amount of orange peel/clear being removed. Either way, a small price to pay IMO.

Without further delay, here are the pics!!


Couple "befores"



photo1 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr





DSC_0064 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr





DSC_0067 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr





DSC_0071 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr



Afters



DSC_0072 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr





DSC_0068 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr





DSC_0066 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr





DSC_0065 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr



Notice the difference in the distinction of image between the untouched area on the left/door vs the right side which was complete



DSC_0070 by SpeedFreak81, on Flickr



Thanks for looking. I'm not the world's greatest photographer, but I think the point is conveyed!


-Brian
 
That is just amazing. So how many pads did you go through just for one side of the car? This was just the cutting pad correct? Man it looks like you could just put the LSP on right now.
 
Bahhhhhh... everyone needs to just stop posting reviews of such great products!!! I am out of room for storing all of these products.

... I guess I could have worse problems :)

Excellent pics and write up! Look forward to seeing the full detail on the car.
 
Unfortunately I was only able to do the 4'x4' section today, as I had to leave the shop early.

Correct, ONLY the car pro pad/M105 was used. I'll go over everything with Menzerna SF4000 after all the initial de-peeling is done.
 
Those are excellent results. I have looked into these and have seen Todd Helme's review of these but he did this on a repainted panel of a vehicle.

Now here is my question,

I wonder what the paint measurements would be from doing this for a before and after?

As we already know a factory clear coat is extremely thin to begin with and this process has the equivalent to 2000 grit sand paper so I would think that with removing enough of the clear (orange peel) you can very well burn through easy enough on a factory clear.
 
Do you by chance have a paint thickness gauge and can report before/after thickness?
 
Evan.J said:
Those are excellent results. I have looked into these and have seen Todd Helme's review of these but he did this on a repainted panel of a vehicle.

Now here is my question,

I wonder what the paint measurements would be from doing this for a before and after?

As we already know a factory clear coat is extremely thin to begin with and this process has the equivalent to 2000 grit sand paper so I would think that with removing enough of the clear (orange peel) you can very well burn through easy enough on a factory clear.
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Car Pro markets the Denim pad as equivalent to 2000 grit paper, and specifies it as being for repainted surfaces with thicker clear.

They also have a Velvet pad, equivalent to 3000 grit paper that is specified as being for thin factory clear.
 
Evan.J said:
Those are excellent results. I have looked into these and have seen Todd Helme's review of these but he did this on a repainted panel of a vehicle.

Now here is my question,

I wonder what the paint measurements would be from doing this for a before and after?

As we already know a factory clear coat is extremely thin to begin with and this process has the equivalent to 2000 grit sand paper so I would think that with removing enough of the clear (orange peel) you can very well burn through easy enough on a factory clear.
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I saw in another review a while back (forgot where), the denim pad removed more clear than wetsanding with 2000 grit in its quest to remove orange peel. He took measurements. If i remember correctly, the wetsanding removed 0.2 mils where as the denim pad removed 0.3.. or was it 2 mils and 3 mils? The ratio was 2:3.
 
Willy Wang said:
I saw in another review a while back (forgot where), the denim pad removed more clear than wetsanding with 2000 grit in its quest to remove orange peel. He took measurements. If i remember correctly, the wetsanding removed 0.2 mils where as the denim pad removed 0.3.. or was it 2 mils and 3 mils? The ratio was 2:3.
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You might remove a little more clear, but the risk of screwing up while sanding vs. a pad like this sort of justifies that imo. If i ever was to wet sand on paint, id definitely use this over traditional wet sanding. but thats just me.
 
Wow, is the best way to describe that. I knew these were impressive in how well they work but didn't know they would finish out anywhere near that good on their own.
 
SpeedFreak81 said:
Car Pro markets the Denim pad as equivalent to 2000 grit paper, and specifies it as being for repainted surfaces with thicker clear.

They also have a Velvet pad, equivalent to 3000 grit paper that is specified as being for thin factory clear.
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I would like to see measurements just as a way to compare these are very nice tool to have!
 
Wow is right, the orange peel removal alone is impressive but that finish from that product combination is unbelievable!
 
IME, denim pads do remove more clear than wet/damp sanding with 1500 grit Meguiar's Sanding Discs (not finishing discs). After achieving incredible results with these pads on a DA, I have since switched over to wet/damp sanding entirely.

For the caking issue, try a bug scrubber sponge. Works wonders on these pads!!
 
I'm lost for words!

I don't trust myself with a pad like that..would rather have a professional around here do it instead...but dang that last pic looks so smooooooooooth!!

:pc7424:
 
I literally said "wow" when I saw the after pictures! Could you say what make and model the car was? Also how many section passes did you have to do to get to the results? I've been eyeing these pads for a while, and seeing that you used them on a rupes 21 makes me want to try them even more now!

Edit: nvm I just reread the post about which car
 
I wish I knew about these...

Just wondering: if 1500 grit removes less CC you'd still have to buff it out with a compound and a rotary, even move up to 3000 (depends what one prefers). So wouldn't this approach remove less in the end?

either way great job, will be ordering some of these with my Flex in a few months, since I have people asking about removing the orange peel off their repaints after posting my pictures on FB . I am also curious how many pads would be needed, say per panel?

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