Many people like ONR for lube, in my case I found it causing "stiction" after a few passes using 4 different types of clay on 2 different makes/models of vehicles. It would work find for 2-3 rubs, then stick, hard, causing clay to stick and come off the bar and mar the paint. I then tried again and used a ton of lube on the bar and paint, still happened. I tried 2 batches, measured out per bottle instructions for lube ratio, used distilled water, also added a drop or two of car wash shampoo (DG), no help. Using Meguiars regular (red bottle) Quik Detailer, and Mothers quick detailer (comes in their clay lube kit) I do not have that issue (on same vehicles, same sections). Going to use up my ONR for rinseless wash use only.