Collinite 845 problems.

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Hey guys I applied too much Collinite to my paint and I let it side for over 5 hours. It dried off into an almost crusty consistency. It was mainly on my hood which is when I realized that I was applying way too much. I was able to wipe off the rest of the vehicle with almost no issues. The main problem I have noticed is that after wiping off I have noticed holograms and ghosting on the paint. I have heard that when you do apply too much it results in ghosting and holograms. I have also heard that it tends to sweat when you apply too much along with residual oils being left on the paint. If anyone has any sort of advice as to why it wiped off in that way please let me know! Thank you very much!
 
No offense to any Collinite fans but I no longer use their products for the reason you stated. I applied too much with 915 and boy was it a PAIN to remove. Additionally, I had the same issues with Ghosting or hazing. If it were me (as I did), I would look at getting a wax remover or polish your ride to get rid of everything and start all over again. There are many other waxes or sealants that are much easier to use and will not ghost or haze.

Now again, I said this was MY EXPERIENCE. I may be in the small minority in this and I mean no offense to any Collinite Fanboys. I am just relating my experience with Collinite products.

I would look into other brands of waxes or sealants. Poorboy's, Pinnacle, Sonax, Menzerna liquid wax, Blackfire, SON1C and many other brands that AGO sells should suffice.
 
Wash it, carefully but fully dry it and look at it again.
 
I think there are two problems working against you:

1) You let it sit too long before buffing it off
2) It was applied too thick.

I've always found letting 845 sit for about 30~45 minutes was about right for it to dry yet still be easy to buff off. Any longer than that, especially in a hot climate and it will be hard to get off. If there was a crust or white build up when applying, you probably used far too much product. 845 goes on very thin and I've had the best success when it only appeared to be a slight haze on on the paint as it dried.

Putting it on too thick will lead to hologram-like effects in the paint. It will also lead to the paint "sweating", or hazing up in places, in really hot conditions. I've suffered both even after using the product for years, though typically only in small areas where I got sloppy. In both instances usually washing the car or hitting the offending areas with a QD spray easily clears things up.
 
There is a very good Colinite 845 sticky on this forum, if you havent read it, read it. The key to 845 (and all waxes really) is to apply THIN THIN THIN!!! Science dictates if you are getting ANY wax on the surface of the vehicle, you are getting enough. So more than is needed is simply wasted, and makes removal more difficult. And 845 applies VERY THIN!!!
 
Was this 5 hours in the sun? I've had products dry faster than anticipated before and not wipe off. I've simply sprayed my waterless wash on the area and it wipes off. I've never left anything that long tho.

I use collinite on several family members cars because I don't see them that often and I want lasting durable protection and its a great value.

Here is Nick's guide. I've followed this and had excellent results

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40243

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Ryanm said:
Was this 5 hours in the sun? I've had products dry faster than anticipated before and not wipe off. I've simply sprayed my waterless wash on the area and it wipes off. I've never left anything that long tho.

I use collinite on several family members cars because I don't see them that often and I want lasting durable protection and its a great value.

Here is Nick's guide. I've followed this and had excellent results

https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/showthread.php?t=40243

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Totally agree with Ryanm. Follow Nick's instructions and you'll have no issues. Collinate makes a great product and 845 is one of those that everyone should have in their arsenal. Great stuff. Sadly people go off the grid with this stuff. A little research goes a long way. Trust me, Nick's article is the definite guide on #845 - read the whole thing and then try again.
 
addysdaddy said:
Totally agree with Ryanm. Follow Nick's instructions and you'll have no issues. Collinate makes a great product and 845 is one of those that everyone should have in their arsenal. Great stuff. Sadly people go off the grid with this stuff. A little research goes a long way. Trust me, Nick's article is the definite guide on #845 - read the whole thing and then try again.
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Couldn't agree more. Not sure why folks have issues with 845? Did not use this product in a while, saw this post and was motivated to go into the garage and applied 845 to my dd. 87 degrees, high humidity. Machine applied PC 7424 with a blue LC flat pad. Thin, thin, thin is the key. Did the entire vehicle - had a beer - wiped off with ease.

David
 
Another downside is that my car is black, so that doesn't make it any better. I will give my car a quick wash and see if that makes any difference in the appearance of the paint.
 
Jaretr1 said:
There is a very good Colinite 845 sticky on this forum, if you havent read it, read it. The key to 845 (and all waxes really) is to apply THIN THIN THIN!!! Science dictates if you are getting ANY wax on the surface of the vehicle, you are getting enough. So more than is needed is simply wasted, and makes removal more difficult. And 845 applies VERY THIN!!!
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^^^This^^^

Like all the articles, stickies, and even the actual bottle itself that has the word THIN printed in all caps, you need to follow this advice.

I tried to cram my whole correction/wax into a singe day once. (Bad idea).

I guess I was shot toward the end of the evening, and I forgot to buff the 845 off of my rear bumper.
Saw this the next day, and thought "Ah, crap". It was totally dried, and looked white.

Because I applied it THIN, the 845 that dried overnight into the morning (about 11 hours) wiped right off with almost zero effort.
 
Ruben,

I had the exact same issue with all collinite waxes; 476, 915, and to some extent 845. Not so much with 845 though. I also have a black car and had residual oils left on my paint after leaving it for about 5 minutes to dry. I tried using better quality towels, same problem. Tried to wipe off the oil, it just spread everywhere. This all happened despite all my efforts to get it thin.
I got around this issue by not leting it dry too much. This was my technique;
-used a foam applicator moistened with distilled water.
- I lightly rubbed the applicator over the paste twice with little pressure.
- worked in a 1x1 foot area.
-I let it semi dry for 5-10 SECONDS
-Wiped off with a 350 gsm microfibre towel

That was the end of those oily holograms. I can predict what people are going to say.. " wont that affect durability?!?" So far the answer to that question is no. I did a side by side comparison of 476 wiped off after 5 minutes of drying and 10 seconds of drying on the hood of my mums car. It has been about three months now and both the sides look like they are holding up very well. The side that was left to dry 5 minutes still has the oily swirls.. washing did not get rid of them.

I cannot comment on the effectiveness of this technique to prevent sweating.. it isnt summer here in australia so there is a very low chance of it happening anyway. Summer is a different story!! :) Ill have to test that out.

Try it out and it should work. The key is to not let it dry completely!

James
 
Spray the paint with a last step detailing spray like Poorboys Quick Detailer or any brand that you have. This will help in removing the dried on wax.
 
Ruben12 said:
Hey guys I applied too much Collinite to my paint and I let it side for over 5 hours. It dried off into an almost crusty consistency. It was mainly on my hood which is when I realized that I was applying way too much. I was able to wipe off the rest of the vehicle with almost no issues. The main problem I have noticed is that after wiping off I have noticed holograms and ghosting on the paint. I have heard that when you do apply too much it results in ghosting and holograms. I have also heard that it tends to sweat when you apply too much along with residual oils being left on the paint. If anyone has any sort of advice as to why it wiped off in that way please let me know! Thank you very much!
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Best way is to use a strong ipa to remove the problem spots


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Same thing happened with me the last time I used 915. I wanted to apply by hand since it had been a while, forgot it should be very thin and let it dry a bit too long. Could not wipe it off after no matter if I used my best microfiber or even terry towels for some reason. Had to eventually use a terry bonnet with my 2nd gen GG6. Afterwards noticed a lot of holograms and ghosting myself. I was a big Collinite fan, and it isn't so much they don't still make a great product, just that there are other things out that I would rather use now.
 
Thanks for the advice! I just recently washed my car and wiped it down with CG waterless wash and wax. The paint looks pretty good as it sits in my garage. I will keep you posted as I check it out in the sunlight or later tonight. Thanks for the awesome response!
 
This just happened to me using Collinite 840 cleaner wax. It's a new vehicle (1 wk old) with silver paint. I used very little product (4 dabs on the pad) and was working in my garage at a temp of only about 65 deg. I did 3 passes with Porter Cable DA buffer and white polishing pad and only left it on for about 10-15 min, but it still left holograms. I'm not sure how I could have been more careful. As a couple commenters suggested here, I used a final step detailer spray and a very fine microfiber towel and was able to remove the holograms, but it took some elbow grease! I love the results that Collinite produces, but man do you have to be careful with them. Now I only put 3 small dabs of product on the pad and only work 24 sq inches at a time, then promptly remove it within 10 min.
 
dhectorg said:
This just happened to me using Collinite 840 cleaner wax. It's a new vehicle (1 wk old) with silver paint. I used very little product (4 dabs on the pad) and was working in my garage at a temp of only about 65 deg. I did 3 passes with Porter Cable DA buffer and white polishing pad and only left it on for about 10-15 min, but it still left holograms. I'm not sure how I could have been more careful. As a couple commenters suggested here, I used a final step detailer spray and a very fine microfiber towel and was able to remove the holograms, but it took some elbow grease! I love the results that Collinite produces, but man do you have to be careful with them. Now I only put 3 small dabs of product on the pad and only work 24 sq inches at a time, then promptly remove it within 10 min.
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You do realize that 840 is intended for single stage paint, and not clearcoat, right?
 
Also, 840 is not a cleaner wax, it's a pre-wax cleaner, it does not contain wax and did not need to be left to "cure".
 
To the OP. Something to remember is like removes like, meaning if you overapplied 845 and let it dry that 845 will remove what was there with another application. If you still see streaking when you pull it out of the garage, try another thin layer of 845 with proper removal techniques and your problem will be solved.

To add: a lot of pure waxes/sealants will provide undesirable results if the paint isn’t properly prepped meaning a clay or clay like process followed by a paint cleaner at minimum.
 
I used to love 845 when I lived up north, since moving to southern Florida I experienced the "ghosting" issue and stopped using it. Used to be my go to but it just doesn't jive with a hot humid climate in my experience. Never once had that issue when I lived in Ohio.

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