Comparison between Menzerna and Meguiar's Polishes

85rd is Menzerna's finishing polish just like 205 is for Meguiars but 85rd leaves a nicer finish.
 
If 85rd leaves a nicer finish does that imply that it is less aggressive than 205? 205 does leave a nice finish but I was expecting better. A poster in another thread I started recommended that I jewel the paint with 85rd after polishing with 205............I just want to make sure I'm not going to take away too much clear coat with all this polishing.
 
mcpp66 said:
If 85rd leaves a nicer finish does that imply that it is less aggressive than 205? 205 does leave a nice finish but I was expecting better. A poster in another thread I started recommended that I jewel the paint with 85rd after polishing with 205............I just want to make sure I'm not going to take away too much clear coat with all this polishing.
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mcpp66 said:
If 85rd leaves a nicer finish does that imply that it is less aggressive than 205? 205 does leave a nice finish but I was expecting better. A poster in another thread I started recommended that I jewel the paint with 85rd after polishing with 205............I just want to make sure I'm not going to take away too much clear coat with all this polishing.
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I always follow up 205 with Ultrafina or 85rd with a blue finishing pad which has no cut.
 
85RD seems way less aggresive than 205. Two completely different types of abrasives used.
 
Don't worry about going through your clear. You should be fine unless:

1) The previous owner polished the car many many times with a rotary and heavy compounds or a PC even more times using heavy compounds.

or

2) The clear is already on its last legs from overexposure to the elements. You should be able to tell by the faded white stains that begin to appear on the clear, cracks in the clear coat or even peeling if it's already getting pretty bad.

I don't think your going to get the results your after if you follow 85rd after 205. 205 should already finish pretty nice. 85rd will leave a better glossier finish, but if your expecting a lot more than 205, I think you might end up disappointed.

Can you post close-up pics of the car? If you don't mind of course.

mcpp66 said:
If 85rd leaves a nicer finish does that imply that it is less aggressive than 205? 205 does leave a nice finish but I was expecting better. A poster in another thread I started recommended that I jewel the paint with 85rd after polishing with 205............I just want to make sure I'm not going to take away too much clear coat with all this polishing.
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kronos said:
Don't worry about going through your clear. You should be fine unless:

1) The previous owner polished the car many many times with a rotary and heavy compounds or a PC even more times using heavy compounds.

or

2) The clear is already on its last legs from overexposure to the elements. You should be able to tell by the faded white stains that begin to appear on the clear, cracks in the clear coat or even peeling if it's already getting pretty bad.

I don't think your going to get the results your after if you follow 85rd after 205. 205 should already finish pretty nice. 85rd will leave a better glossier finish, but if your expecting a lot more than 205, I think you might end up disappointed.

Can you post close-up pics of the car? If you don't mind of course.
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I read an article somewhere that the thickness of clear coat is comparable to the thickness of the wrapper around a box of cigarettes. Well, that's quite thin and it just seems like it wouldn't be hard to polish it all away. I believe everone on this forum that says I won't burn through it, it's just that it's so thin I can't help worrying about it.

I'm certainly not implying that I'm not happy with the results of the 205, it's just that on the side panels for some reason there's some very light micro-marring in some spots that I just can't get rid. My horizontal panels on the other hand are excellent. Even if I can't get rid of all the micro-marring, if it still produces a glossier finish I'll be happy.

I wouldn't mind posting pictures of my car at all, if I had a camera, that is. I could use my cell phone, but I don't think it's going to produce the quality photo I'm looking for.
 
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/21620-how-many-times-can-you-buff.html

This thread has a thorough explanation of what is needed to go through the clear. It is very thin like you said, but it's also very tough. Only the heat created from using a rotary can really buff through the clear and other less likely methods of course.

Hmm, I'm wondering if your seeing RIDS instead. To tell you the truth, I can't speak from experience cuz I'm still a noob myself, but like you, I've read many articles and posts by others that have had similar concerns, so I'm basing my answers off that and some off my own personal experience. After reading many posts about going through clear-coats, I realized there's really no way I was going to go through it if I practiced common sense. And I realized that I could do a thorough buffing the first time and light buffing for the next 5 to 10 years without really worrying about going through my clear.

I have an idea. What if you could find somebody near you that owns a paint meter and pay them to give you measurements of your car's paint thickness. This way, you'll have peace of mind knowing how much you can buff before endangering your clear.
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
85rd is Menzerna's finishing polish just like 205 is for Meguiars but 85rd leaves a nicer finish.
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From all the reports I read, Meg's should release a "305" as a fine finishing polish product. For production work, 205 seems to work fine but extra finishing they should release a finer finish. It may be just tweaking another existing product.
 
Bunky said:
From all the reports I read, Meg's should release a "305" as a fine finishing polish product. For production work, 205 seems to work fine but extra finishing they should release a finer finish. It may be just tweaking another existing product.
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When I was speaking to the Megs rep in my area we were talking and I said just take a little of what UF has and add it to 205 and it would be golden.
 
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