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Comparison:
Introduction:
I’ve used the original Optimum No Rinse but had not tried the Rinseless wash offered by Detailers Pride or the newer version of ONR. Old Tiger (Jim) contacted me and thought it would be interesting to compare the two. Jim was also very generous in offering to supply the products. Thank you Jim! I worked with the products Sunday morning and Monday night. My thoughts are as follows.
Tale of the Tape:
Detailers Pride:
1.- Versatility: Rinseless wash, Water conditioner, Clay and foam pad lubricant, QD
2.- Consistency: Thin fluid slightly thicker then water
3.- Color: Hot Pink/Magenta
4.- Scent: Mint - Bubble Gum - Elmers Glue
5a.-Size/Price: 32 oz. ($16.99)
5b.-Size/Price: 128 oz. ($39.99)
6.- Manufacturer: Detailers Pride
7.- Made in: USA
Optimum:
1.- Versatility: Rinseless wash, Water conditioner, Clay lubricant, QD
2.- Consistency: Thin fluid slightly thicker then water
3.- Color: Dark Turquoise Blue
4.- Scent: Lifesavers Candy (Mixed Fruit)
5a.- Size/Price: 8 oz. ($7.99)
5b.- Size/Price: 32 oz. ($15.99)
5c.- Size/Price: 128 oz. ($39.99)
6.- Manufacturer: Optimum Polymer Technologies, Inc.
7.- Made in: USA
Products Used:
Method of Preparation, Application, and noted Observations:
Rinseless Wash
The first way I tested these products was as a rinseless wash. The car I tried them on had not been washed in 2 weeks and is a daily driver. It had some love bug remains dried hard to it and I would have normally used a regular wash but this gave me a good opportunity to test the cleaning ability of these 2 products on the hood.
Before
I started by taking 2 buckets and placing 2 gallons of water in each of them. Then I poured 1 oz. of DP-RWG into the first bucket and 1 oz. of ONR into the other and stirred them with my hand before placing the grit guards back inside.
1 OZ. DP-RWG
1 OZ. ONR
MIXED SOLUTIONS
I dipped a hand in each bucket to try to feel for a difference in lubricity. After about 20 seconds I concluded that I could not tell a difference.
Next I took a clean properly folded towel and dipped it in the ONR bucket until it was saturated. I washed one quarter of the passenger side of the hood.
Then I flipped the towel and washed another section. I had not set up any rinse buckets but during my washing process I sprayed my wash towels off with the hose as needed and then squeezed out and soaked up more wash solution. I repeated this process until I believed the passenger side was complete. As I was using a WW towel to dry I found that there were some bug remains that had not been removed from the paint. I went back to the wash bucket and had a second go at those stubborn spots and then dried the area again.
Next I retrieved a fresh towel and (using DP-RWG this time) I followed the same method as described above.
After drying the driver side I again discovered a couple bug leftovers that had not been removed, but there did seem to be slightly less than what I had experienced on the ONR passenger side.
Quick Detailer
To test the products as quick detailers I mixed the appropriate amounts into 2 separate bottles. (8 oz. of ONR and 2.5 oz. of DPRWG to 32 oz. of water each)
Using my Sky as a test vehicle I taped off a small area. The test area was warm but in the shade. I sprayed on some DP, then wiped, and finally lightly buffed off with a dry side of the towel. Then I did the same with the Optimum. The ONR side felt slightly slicker, while the DP side barely won in the streak free dept. Neither product had a real issue with streaking but I think the DP had a slight advantage.
Here is my summary of observations based on the limited time I’ve spent with these products.
Rinseless Wash Advantage:
Price: Equal in 128 oz. size (Optimum in 32 oz. size)
Lubricity: Equal
Paint slickness: Equal
Appearance: Equal (DP "ever so slightly" darkened the paint)
Cleaning Ability: Equal
Streak Free: Equal
Mar free finish: Equal
QD Advantage:
Price: DP (based on manufacturer specified dilution ratios)
Lubricity: Optimum (ONR suggests 3.2 times as much product for QD)
Paint slickness: Optimum
Appearance: Equal
Cleaning Ability: Not tested
Streak Free: Detailers Pride
Mar free finish: Equal
???:
1.- Why does DP only use 2-2.5 oz. for a QD and ONR use 8 oz.? Are the goals of these two manufacturers for a QD different?
Product Descriptions (from AG website):
DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss is the ultimate winter detailing product. When you can’t wash your vehicle the old-fashioned way, use DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss to keep your vehicle clean inside your garage. All it takes is a bucket of water to clean your vehicle and give it a fantastic gloss. No rinsing is needed! Wash away road salt and grime using just two gallons of water and a soft mitt or towel.
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine is a true breakthrough in car care. It’s a multi-purpose product that serves as a rinseless wash, a quick detailer, and a clay lubricant, depending on how much water you add. You don’t have to be a chemist to formulate your own excellent car care products; just follow the directions on the bottle! Plus, this product does not require rinsing. You can conserve water and still get your vehicle beautifully clean!
And the Product Links:
DP 32 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html
DP 128 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/dpforiwash12.html
ONR 8 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/no-rinse-wash.html
ONR 32 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html
ONR 128 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/opnoriwash12.html
Detailers Pride Rinseless Wash and Gloss
vs.
Optimum No Rinse (New Formula)
vs.
Optimum No Rinse (New Formula)
Introduction:
I’ve used the original Optimum No Rinse but had not tried the Rinseless wash offered by Detailers Pride or the newer version of ONR. Old Tiger (Jim) contacted me and thought it would be interesting to compare the two. Jim was also very generous in offering to supply the products. Thank you Jim! I worked with the products Sunday morning and Monday night. My thoughts are as follows.
Tale of the Tape:
Detailers Pride:
1.- Versatility: Rinseless wash, Water conditioner, Clay and foam pad lubricant, QD
2.- Consistency: Thin fluid slightly thicker then water
3.- Color: Hot Pink/Magenta
4.- Scent: Mint - Bubble Gum - Elmers Glue
5a.-Size/Price: 32 oz. ($16.99)
5b.-Size/Price: 128 oz. ($39.99)
6.- Manufacturer: Detailers Pride
7.- Made in: USA
Optimum:
1.- Versatility: Rinseless wash, Water conditioner, Clay lubricant, QD
2.- Consistency: Thin fluid slightly thicker then water
3.- Color: Dark Turquoise Blue
4.- Scent: Lifesavers Candy (Mixed Fruit)
5a.- Size/Price: 8 oz. ($7.99)
5b.- Size/Price: 32 oz. ($15.99)
5c.- Size/Price: 128 oz. ($39.99)
6.- Manufacturer: Optimum Polymer Technologies, Inc.
7.- Made in: USA
Products Used:
Method of Preparation, Application, and noted Observations:
Rinseless Wash
The first way I tested these products was as a rinseless wash. The car I tried them on had not been washed in 2 weeks and is a daily driver. It had some love bug remains dried hard to it and I would have normally used a regular wash but this gave me a good opportunity to test the cleaning ability of these 2 products on the hood.
Before
I started by taking 2 buckets and placing 2 gallons of water in each of them. Then I poured 1 oz. of DP-RWG into the first bucket and 1 oz. of ONR into the other and stirred them with my hand before placing the grit guards back inside.
1 OZ. DP-RWG
1 OZ. ONR
MIXED SOLUTIONS
I dipped a hand in each bucket to try to feel for a difference in lubricity. After about 20 seconds I concluded that I could not tell a difference.
Next I took a clean properly folded towel and dipped it in the ONR bucket until it was saturated. I washed one quarter of the passenger side of the hood.
Then I flipped the towel and washed another section. I had not set up any rinse buckets but during my washing process I sprayed my wash towels off with the hose as needed and then squeezed out and soaked up more wash solution. I repeated this process until I believed the passenger side was complete. As I was using a WW towel to dry I found that there were some bug remains that had not been removed from the paint. I went back to the wash bucket and had a second go at those stubborn spots and then dried the area again.
Next I retrieved a fresh towel and (using DP-RWG this time) I followed the same method as described above.
After drying the driver side I again discovered a couple bug leftovers that had not been removed, but there did seem to be slightly less than what I had experienced on the ONR passenger side.
Quick Detailer
To test the products as quick detailers I mixed the appropriate amounts into 2 separate bottles. (8 oz. of ONR and 2.5 oz. of DPRWG to 32 oz. of water each)
Using my Sky as a test vehicle I taped off a small area. The test area was warm but in the shade. I sprayed on some DP, then wiped, and finally lightly buffed off with a dry side of the towel. Then I did the same with the Optimum. The ONR side felt slightly slicker, while the DP side barely won in the streak free dept. Neither product had a real issue with streaking but I think the DP had a slight advantage.
Here is my summary of observations based on the limited time I’ve spent with these products.
Rinseless Wash Advantage:
Price: Equal in 128 oz. size (Optimum in 32 oz. size)
Lubricity: Equal
Paint slickness: Equal
Appearance: Equal (DP "ever so slightly" darkened the paint)
Cleaning Ability: Equal
Streak Free: Equal
Mar free finish: Equal
QD Advantage:
Price: DP (based on manufacturer specified dilution ratios)
Lubricity: Optimum (ONR suggests 3.2 times as much product for QD)
Paint slickness: Optimum
Appearance: Equal
Cleaning Ability: Not tested
Streak Free: Detailers Pride
Mar free finish: Equal
???:
1.- Why does DP only use 2-2.5 oz. for a QD and ONR use 8 oz.? Are the goals of these two manufacturers for a QD different?
Product Descriptions (from AG website):
DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss is the ultimate winter detailing product. When you can’t wash your vehicle the old-fashioned way, use DP Rinseless Wash & Gloss to keep your vehicle clean inside your garage. All it takes is a bucket of water to clean your vehicle and give it a fantastic gloss. No rinsing is needed! Wash away road salt and grime using just two gallons of water and a soft mitt or towel.
Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine is a true breakthrough in car care. It’s a multi-purpose product that serves as a rinseless wash, a quick detailer, and a clay lubricant, depending on how much water you add. You don’t have to be a chemist to formulate your own excellent car care products; just follow the directions on the bottle! Plus, this product does not require rinsing. You can conserve water and still get your vehicle beautifully clean!
And the Product Links:
DP 32 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/dp-rinseless-four-in-one.html
DP 128 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/dpforiwash12.html
ONR 8 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/no-rinse-wash.html
ONR 32 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.html
ONR 128 oz. http://www.autogeek.net/opnoriwash12.html
I did mix it at the ratio I described. I guess that may explain the differences I saw in the 2 products at the QD level... Surprisingly the differences weren't much!
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