compound, polish, glaze, wax, where did i go wrong?

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Hi, i am fairly new to detailing, but during my research and the great advice from others here on the site i finally came up with a plan to detail a 1995 black acura legend, of course if i had taken pics each of you would be able to visualize more clearly. The paint was in pretty bad shape, after washing i used menzerna powergloss, and then menzerna final finish, i did use a rotary applying the menzernas. After the menzernas the finish was smooth, clear, and clean. Then i applied red moose machine glaze, after applying that the finish was nice and shiny, and really super smooth, no scratches, or webbing in site, but as soon as i applied the collinite 846, all of the micro swirls started to appear, the only thing that i can figure is that i applied the collinite with a sponge and then removed with a microfiber, is that good or bad. Please help.
 
Final Finish? Never heard of that Menz product. There's Power Finish and Final Polish. Either way, after powergloss, you need to go to a less aggressive polish like SIP, then break it down further with something like final polish or Nano. You do not need a glaze. Chances are that the glaze filled in the swirls, and when you applied your LSP, it removed the glaze and revealed the swirls again. Also, maybe some of the oils left from polishing also acted as fillers. You should apply waxes with polyfoam applicators.
 
Thanks soo very much, yes, i think that is what happened, next time i will go with power gloss, intensive polish, the final polish 2? then a wax, does that sound like a winner? Its always great to get and give advice on this site, to elevate everyones art and craft to the next level, thanks soo very much. I cant wait to try that method.
 
I don't think you need something as aggressive as Powergloss though. Acuras have very soft paint. Something like Nano with a green pad might even be aggressive enough. What kind of pads are you using? In fact...Powergloss is FAR TOO aggressive for your paint.
 
i am using edge pads, yeah, maybe you are correct with the powergloss, i will definately use this information for future reference. as i stated before, i am kinda new to really detailing a vechile, though i have been washing and waxing blindly for years and not understaning the basics. This was one of my first jobs though it turned out ok, and the customer was pleased with the outcome, but as with talking with professionals as yourself, i know that the job could have been a bit better. Next time i will be sure to take pics from start to finish. in your opinion what is a good all around polish made by menzerna, i think that their polishes is the best. Or do you suggest another product to try.
 
I suggest Menzerna. 3M and Scholls also make great products. Nano is a great polish because it has slight cut, and finishes down nicely. That's why I suggested it to you. Give it a shot with a white or green pad and you will be amazed.
 
Another thing is that you should do IPA wipedown to check after each step to see if you are satisfied with the result and to remove the oils from the polishes like josh as mentioned.
 
thanks josh and eliran for the information, i will be sure to order the nano and pads now, so i can have it , and by the way josh, nice pics on your link. Again thanks for the information.
 
markwatson157 said:
thanks josh and eliran for the information, i will be sure to order the nano and pads now, so i can have it , and by the way josh, nice pics on your link. Again thanks for the information.
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Thank you. Feel free to post up a picture of yourself. We'd love to have you! :D
 
Did you clay the car before all the polising? Only thing I see that you may have missed! Least aggressive method first after washing and clay!
 
no, i did not clay at all, i was thinking that after the wash, i would just go straight to the compound, then polish, glaze, then lsp. all opinions are accepted, especailly from the seniors and professionals. thanks showroom shine. if there is any information that you would like to share please feel free to let me know, also do you know of any great product that cleans alloy wheels that have that dull, worn look?
 
markwatson157 said:
no, i did not clay at all, i was thinking that after the wash, i would just go straight to the compound, then polish, glaze, then lsp. all opinions are accepted, especailly from the seniors and professionals. thanks showroom shine. if there is any information that you would like to share please feel free to let me know, also do you know of any great product that cleans alloy wheels that have that dull, worn look?
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You should clay after washing and before compounding. For two reasons-one so you do not pick up debris in the pad and spread around with the pad and cause more marring and secondly it gives the compound/polish a clean surface to work on which in turn make the process easier for you. Ypu could take it one step further and do a prep-sol wipe down after the claying to make sure you have a very clean surface to begin working on.
 
thanks alot rocket, i will be sure to include the claying step within my next detail. Again thanks alot
 
Hey Mark,

1. Alot of the knowledgeable pros and nonpros on here are very helpful and dont mind sharing their wealth of knowledge but as an added source of information I'd recommend checking out the show n' shine section of the forum. A bunch of great detailers post their before and after pics along with a description of what steps/products they used. There are alot of great writeups filled with info that will give you a clearer picture of proper detailing.

I hope my opinion is helpful.
 
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