Contest - Find my Newspaper to clean glass theory on MOL - win a prize

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Contest - Find my Newspaper to clean glass theory on MOL - win a prize


On today's LIVE Detailing Class at 3:00pm we're going to do our best to answer as many MYTHS as possible submitted in this thread,

What are some common myths and misconceptions about car detailing?




Year's ago, when the discussion of using newspapers to clean glass came up on the MeguiarsOnline.com car detailing discussion forum came up, I was well aware of this "practice", but I had a DIFFERENT theory than everyone else.

Most people, at least back then, said the reason newspaper works so great for streak-free glass cleaning is due to the INK used for the print.

Not being a ink chemist, I have know idea if that's true?


I looked at this from a MUCH more practical frame of mine. After 3 brick-n-mortar detail shops and ALWAYS offering Mobile Detailing, my theory was that newspapers are a simply, an abundant and FREE sources of paper.

1: You have to buy paper towels.

2: You have to buy glass towels. (and then wash, dry and store them)
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Newspapers are FREE!

They can be found at any store, like 7-11 or Circle K, you can also get them for free at a recycle drop-off. And heck, lots of people subscribe to a paper and thus have inventory. It's a FREE resources. You don't have to wash, dry and store it. Use it and then throw it away.


That's my theory and I'm sticking to it.


Now the contest. This is NOT an article I wrote but simply a "reply" in a thread somewhere on the MOL forum. I've looked for it in the past to no avail.


If someone that's pretty good at searching Skynet, (Google), can locate the thread and the post #number - I will send you something cool from my garage and detailing class inventory.


NOTE: LIMITED TO THE LOWER 48 STATES

Sorry about the limit but it's not only a hassle to ship out of the U.S. but it also cost a lot more money.



Reply to this thread and copy and paste the link to the reply below.



And....

GO!

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Here's a power searching tip for Skynet


After typing in your key words, add the below but without the spaces

www. meguiarsonline .com


This tells Skynet to search that website instead of the entire Interweb.


:dblthumb2:

 

[DMiglio]

Post #16 I believe, midway down the page.

Newspaper to clean windows - Page 2

possibly this thread although I believe it’s the same response. Post #32 top of the page

Spotty windows... - Page 4

Post #20 of this thread might explain why newspapers aren’t so good now a days but years past might’ve worked well. Last post on page.

Window Cleaning - Page 2

 

[acuRAS82]

Post #16 I believe

Newspaper to clean windows - Page 2

possibly this thread although I believe it’s the same response.

Spotty windows... - Page 4

Post #20 of this thread might explain why newspapers aren’t so good now a days but years past might’ve worked well.

Window Cleaning - Page 2

I’m just not going to search and assume you are the winner. Good finds!

 

[DMiglio]

I’m just not going to search and assume you are the winner. Good finds!

Hahah, one can only hope, Mike and Autogeek are very generous to the forum community members.

Keep up the search, I remember Mike had us stumped not too long ago with a similar task and he was happy to give a little thank you gift to all who tried!

 

[Bruno Soares]

Yeah, pretty sure DMiglio got it right with that first link. It's the one I found and was going to post and noticed he already did.

 

[Route246]

To add on, you can use the "site:" directive on Google or duckduckgo or probably any other search engine out there.

"site:" will limit a search to a particular domain.

In this case enter something like this as your search:

site:meguiarsonline.com use newspaper to clean windows

This effectively gives you a "private" search engine for any public website that is open and indexed.

 

[DMiglio]

To add on, you can use the "site:" directive on Google or duckduckgo or probably any other search engine out there.

"site:" will limit a search to a particular domain.

In this case enter something like this as your search:



This effectively gives you a "private" search engine for any public website that is open and indexed.

Nice trick/tip to narrow the searches, from on GT fan to another, thank you! That’ll be useful for future “Mike Missions!”

 

[Bruno Soares]

To add on, you can use the "site:" directive on Google or duckduckgo or probably any other search engine out there.

"site:" will limit a search to a particular domain.

In this case enter something like this as your search:



This effectively gives you a "private" search engine for any public website that is open and indexed.

That's what I did and it gave me the post DMiglio posted. Last time he had one of these I won and all I did was to search it on Google just like that and it found what he (and I) wanted to find.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Sorry guys,

I've been on an IDA conference call and then after that another meeting.


David you're the WINNER! Give me until tomorrow to get organized and I'll find something worthy and get it shipped to you. PM me your shipping address.


And just to note, I think of myself as being pretty good at searching for stuff via Google and yet I still didn't find these posts I was looking for,

Post #16 I believe, midway down the page.

Newspaper to clean windows - Page 2

This is the post I was thinking of - time stamp is Oct 27th, 2008, 11:59 AM

another good way to get crystal clear windows is to use newspaper on them the ink and texture of the paper make a skreak free shine every time

The newspaper recommendation is a method used and talked about but that doesn't make it a great way or even a good way to clean windows.

Newspapers are at their core paper - paper that tends to be clean and dry and for the most part abundant and free if you know where to look and even cheap to buy if you look at them as wiping cloths instead of information compared to paper towels.

It's completely possible that the entire "use newspaper to clean glass" recommendation came about because as an abundant, cheap/free source of clean, (not including the ink), dry paper towels of sorts, it could just be this is the accurate history behind why people use newspapers to clean and dry glass. Because newspaper is free and abundant, not because they're actually good at cleaning glass as compared to glass cleaning towels.

Does using newspapers to dry glass work? Yes. Is newspaper the best option for a wiping cloth? No. There are better wiping cloth options on the market even clean cotton towels work.




This is actually the original - time stamp = Sep 29th, 2008, 10:46 AM

possibly this thread although I believe it’s the same response. Post #32 top of the page

Spotty windows... - Page 4

Back then, just like today, in any discussion, if I have something already written then instead of re-thinking and re-typing I simply locate what I've already written and then copy and paste.


Thanks David.


And for what it's worth - now everyone knows my theory about newspapers for cleaning glass.

And - it still makes sense to me.


:buffing:

 

[PaulMys]

You're gonna give that thick pizza loving SOB a prize??? :laughing::laughing::laughing:

All jokes aside, good work David! Congrats, man!

 

[57Rambler]

The newspaper recommendation is a method used and talked about but that doesn't make it a great way or even a good way to clean windows.

Newspapers are at their core paper - paper that tends to be clean and dry and for the most part abundant and free if you know where to look and even cheap to buy if you look at them as wiping cloths instead of information compared to paper towels.

It's completely possible that the entire "use newspaper to clean glass" recommendation came about because as an abundant, cheap/free source of clean, (not including the ink), dry paper towels of sorts, it could just be this is the accurate history behind why people use newspapers to clean and dry glass. Because newspaper is free and abundant, not because they're actually good at cleaning glass as compared to glass cleaning towels.

Does using newspapers to dry glass work? Yes. Is newspaper the best option for a wiping cloth? No. There are better wiping cloth options on the market even clean cotton towels work.

There are/were several drivers behind the suggestion to use newspaper to clean windows, esp. as an alternative to "paper towels"

1. Newsprint is naturally more absorbent (mainly due to not using any "sizing" agent)
2. Newsprint fibers are less likely to separate and cause "lint"
3. Paper towels (and similar products) use fillers like calcium carbonate and silica, which can cause scratching

Also of note, smearing from the use of newsprint is less of a problem since the switch to soy-based inks.


All that said, I'm sticking with my MF glass towels ... SpeedMasters for the exterior, GG PFM's for inside.

 

[DMiglio]

You're gonna give that thick pizza loving SOB a prize??? :laughing::laughing::laughing:

All jokes aside, good work David! Congrats, man!

Hahahahah damn Paul you got me laughing out loud!! Thank you!

 

[DMiglio]

PM’d you Mike. Glad I was able to help you with that and also prove another “theory” for you.

That is, that it’s much easier to find something written on a forum than on any form of social media. I was able to find the posts through a simple Google search. Multiple links all relating to that specific thread were on the first page.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Post #16 I believe, midway down the page.

Newspaper to clean windows - Page 2

possibly this thread although I believe it’s the same response. Post #32 top of the page

Spotty windows... - Page 4

Post #20 of this thread might explain why newspapers aren’t so good now a days but years past might’ve worked well. Last post on page.

Window Cleaning - Page 2

David you're the WINNER!

Give me until tomorrow to get organized and I'll find something worthy and get it shipped to you. PM me your shipping address.

Hi David,

Apologies for the delay, just so dang busy each day it's hard to get to everything on my plate.


I thought about the prize and how I'm also NOT a Pack Rat. I have a small collection of tools that have been gifted to me over the years by various companies and some I'm going to keep but others I'm going to "gift" to others.

Before FLEX launched the PE8 Kompakt Rotary Polisher they sent me a prototype to test and write a review.


The NEW FLEX PE8 Kompakt Rotary Polisher Polisher in ACTION!


This is a hand-built prototype and one of the ways you can tell it is different from production units is the tool body and cap are different colors.

It's also the #3 unit built. Here's a couple of pictures I took this morning.

And for my review I used it for the thin, intricate and tight panels on this old 2-door Ford,

Because I also have the #2 FLEX PE14 Rotary Polisher and an un-numbered Cordless FLEX PE14 prototype, (both gifted to me by FLEX at SEMA when they were launched), I rarely use the PE8 Kompakt Rotary Polisher.


So for winning the contest, always being a stellar, positive contributing member of this forum and also because I appreciate your trust in my name to pay for and take one of my Roadshow car detailing classes,

And - this was an EPIC class...

Pictures and Comments from the Wisconsin Roadshow Class - 2017

Here's David using a RUPES polisher on an ALL ORIGINAL PAINT

Before

AFTER

(This class knocked out I think 12 cars in 2 days)



For the reasons listed above, I'm sending it to you. I know it will be in good hands.

 

[DMiglio]

Mike,

Don’t sweat the delay, I understand you’re extremely busy and there’s always something going on.

I’m not quite sure what to say, this gift is beyond generous! Truly amazing! You pour so much of yourself into this forum, the reviews, multiple articles, responding to countless emails/threads/posts day in and day out as well as monitoring spam and keeping this place clean and tidy!

You’re one of the main reasons I contribute to this forum and I took your class because I know you’re one of the best there is! Like classes in school, the teacher can make or break how the student feels about the class and how much knowledge they attain.

You taught such a mixed group of individuals, of all ages(10yrs-mid 60’s?), business owners, hobbyists, weekend warriors and did it with 100% enthusiasm and professionalism! We all learned so much from you and the team at Lake Country. We all left feeling like a team where the day before we were just individuals.

Easily one of the best weekends I’ve had in a long time or ever!

Thank you Mike!
Thank you Autogeek!
Thank you to all the Members who contribute to this forum and share so much of your time!