DA polisher without a generator - thoughts on my idea

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I googled this and saw a few threads where people ran a DA off an inverter hooked to their cigarette lighter. This intrigued me as I have a roadster and absolutely no room for a generator. As I read more it looks like the higher watt inverters require you to hard wire them directly to the battery. So my idea was to buy a Stinger or Optima Yellow top an inverter which I'd hook to a trickle charger on nights I need to charge it. I can't find any numbers on how long a Yellow top would be able to power a DA polisher. The idea of hard wiring it to my car battery isn't bad, but a lot of the times when I'd be using the polisher I won't have access to my car.

I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but has anyone done what I'm trying to do here? I'm wondering if a Yellow top that was strictly used with an inverter would last long enough to polish a car? I know this isn't close to the optimal method, but I can't come up with any other way to use my DA when I'm mobile.

Ideas? Even if it's just to tell me this is a dumb idea I'm all ears.
 
I doubt it will last long enough to polish a whole car. You would have to do some math to find out. But the best bet if you wanted to do this would be deep cycle marine batteries the ones they use on say a yacht
 
Good idea, I found a 125ah marine battery, my math sucks so my caculations here aren't working I'm sure. But I think I figured out I could get about 2.5 hours out of it running a Flex polisher. I won't be doing corrections and much beyond basic waxing and getting swirls out so 2.5 would be good enough - I think.
 
Welp, I did some more "math" and I "calculated" that I can run a Flex polisher for 4 hours with an 84AH battery. I also "caculated" that I'd need an 838AH battery to run it for 4 hours. Needless to say I need to do A LOT more reading up on how to calculate this stuff ha ha.
 
I did this before with an inverter and a PC. It worked. However, to maintain full power of the machine I had to keep the car running off and on. It will use gas - but it is doable.
 
Do you have a Flex 3401? If you know the exact operating wattage let me know because I found two values.

First, I found 900 watts while running. Running the Flex for 1 hour consumes 900 watt/hours of energy or 0.9 kWh.

The second value I found was 10.5 amps, converted to watts would be 120 volt X 10.5 amps = 1,260 watts. Running an hour at this wattage would be 1,260 watt/hours or 1.260 kWh.

I am going to use the larger value to not under estimate the amount. If you want to run for 4 hours at this wattage you would need a battery capable of supplying 4 X 1,260 watt/hours = 5,040watt/hours or 5.040 kWh. You then need to factor efficiency losses, assuming a 90% efficient inverter you would need; 5,040watt/hours/0.90 = 5,600 watt/hours. You also never want to completely deplete any sort of deep cycle battery so you always oversize, typically by 20%. To do so multiply 5,600watt/hours X 1.20 = 6,700 watt/hours or 6.7 kWh.

Now that you know your electrical needs, you need to select a battery. I would recommend NOT using a marine deep cycle battery, while these batteries are made for deep cycle discharge, they are not built for the type of cycling you will be performing. I would recommend a renewable energy deep cycle battery, made exactly for this type of abuse. The marine battery will work but a renewable energy specific battery will have much greater longevity than the marine battery. I would recommend a Trojan Deep Cycle batteries, commonly used in off grid solar, wind, and hydroelectric power systems. So since you would likely be using a 12 volt operating battery you can solve for amp hours needed;
6,700 watt/hours /12 volts = 560 amp/hours needed. Unfortunately, that is A LOT of energy to store and hopefully it is the 900 watt operating wattage (or maybe even less). To store 560 amp/hours you would need multiple Trojan batteries hooked up in parallel (+ to + and - to -). I would recommend a sealed led acid battery or gel type so you do not have to monitor battery acid levels in your vehicle. Lead acids require occasional monitoring and addition of ddH2O or you run the battery dry and ruin it. Using this battery; 31-GEL | Trojan Battery Company

you would need at least 5 of them to run the flex at the above requirements.

Not trying to discourage you from doing this because is a great idea and I have thought about it many times, I know you said space is an issue and you are looking at 4-5 batteries to do the job. You could also wire a charge controller into your car to use your vehicle as an auxiliary generator to supply the additional energy you need. Anything with an electric motor requires a large amount of surge energy to start, so make sure the inverter you select is capable of producing a surge wattage required by the flex, all inverters will have the surge max listed but I could not find the surge max for the flex. Again, I think this a great idea and would love to do it myself if I was a mobile pro not just an enthusiast. Let me know if you have any more questions on this because I'd love to help!
 
Honda generators are much smaller than you think
 
rbrown3, thanks for thr super detailed reply. This is what I was fearing, any way to reasonably pull this off is going to either cost too much or take up too much space. I suppose I need to bite the bullet and save up for a small pick up truck or van.
 
Honda generators are much smaller than you think

Honda EU1000i. About 27 lbs.; lasts for 4-8 hrs from less than a gallon tank and can be had off the internet for about $769. A very compact generator that can be carried with one hand.

Also, Costco has a generator similar to the EU2000i with a Yamaha motor (considered close in quality to the Honda) for $599. Probably 50-60 lbs and can be carried with one hand. Not that big of a unit. If the other components are of good quality, this is a really good deal.
 
Honda EU1000i. About 27 lbs.; lasts for 4-8 hrs from less than a gallon tank and can be had off the internet for about $769. A very compact generator that can be carried with one hand.

Also, Costco has a generator similar to the EU2000i with a Yamaha motor (considered close in quality to the Honda) for $599. Probably 50-60 lbs and can be carried with one hand. Not that big of a unit. If the other components are of good quality, this is a really good deal.

I might go check out the Costco one, I found a Ryobi 2200 watt one at Home Depot that looks relatively small, gets good reviews and is not uber expensive.
 
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