Chex
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Hello everyone 
On July 27 and 28, we celebrated our first professional detailing class, which was held in Aguascalientes Mexico.
The difference between this one and other small events we have made, was the reach and the importance of this one, since we counted with the assistance of manufacturer representatives from Menzerna, Meguiar’s, Malco, and a national brand by the name of Auto Finish which also carries products from Chemical Guys.
I would like to thank Autogeek and Mike in advance for the sponsorship package you sent us for this event.
Most people were professionals with different levels of experience, and some enthusiasts too, so it was going to be a very fun class.
Things started at 830am and the people started to arrive. Meanwhile, the manufacturer representatives started to show their products.
The Menzerna Line, Indasa and Starcke abrasives, Microfiber towels and SM Arnold buffing pads offered by Indamex
Meguiar’s products
Autofinish and Chemical Guys Products
After the representatives put their products, we started to give the event’s shirt to every assistant
After eating breakfast, now everyone’s ready to pay attention and start the class. For this part, we gave everyone a slide handout so we could all keep up with the topics explained.
Before starting, everyone presented themselves, including the representatives:
Victor Silva from Meguiar’s
Ivan Garcia from Autofinish
Gabriel Romo from Malco (AQ Service)
Blas Rivera from Malco (AQ Service)
And Victor Aguilar from Menzerna (Indamex)
The topics that were covered were:
Paint defects
Products available for detailing (waxes, polishes, compounds, buffing pads, clay bars, etc)
An explanation about the abrasive technologies: from the sharp non diminishing ones to the new SMAT technologies.
Sandpaper: wet and dry systems, sandpaper gradings and charts, and grading differences (CAMI, FEPA and JIS).
Machines available for detailing: rotary, orbital and forced rotation. Even though we didn’t include it, Jesus Castillo from JCR Pro brought the Buff Pro drum polisher.
A brief explanation about different paint systems: base coats, low, medium, high, and ultra high solids paint and what we can expect when buffing each paint system.
What “aggressive means” when referring to paint correction.
And for last, how important the use of Masking tape is when doing a detail.
Different foam pads were shown to the assistants: from wool pads to specialty pads like Lake Country’s foamed wool pad.
These pads are from the Buff Pro Machine: one foam pad and the cutting wool pad
Some people were new to Microfiber pads which were also shown
After the pad topic, I asked Victor Aguilar from Indamex to give a brief explanation about the difference between wet and dry sandpaper, and how the backing affects the scratch pattern.
What he explained was that film backing makes the scratch pattern much more uniform than a paper backing in a sanding disc (or normal sandpaper in which most cases they’re made out of paper), because paper is not as uniform as the plastic backing. And after some testing made further, this is true.
After some other topics were covered, one that was not in the list came out and started a discussion which focused in how to educate our market to take care of their car correctly, and how we could all make an effort to make this happen. So that’s when the “AMD” logo in our shirt started to become a solid project focused in this specific goal.
Once this was discussed and the topics were all covered, we took a break and had lunch to then continue with the representative’s introduction of their products.
For this part, we painted a hood in solid black with a Valspar fast drying high solids clear coat (AC4400). Even though it had dried for 3 days, it was pretty hard to sand and buff. But the purpose of using a hard clear was to put the products in a situation most of us struggle with.
To make it even more challenging, the hood was wet sanded with P1500 (Indasa Redline) sandpaper in two parts. But one part was dry sanded with P1500 (Indasa Film) and then refined with a 3000 finishing disc (Indasa Rhynofinish dry)
Victor Aguilar doing the refinement with the 3000 disc with a PC in the dry sanded area
Blas from Malco wetsanding their part to show us how their compounds perform
Once the areas were sanded the tests started. The first one to give it a try was Luis perez using Meguiar’s M105 and the Rupes LHR15 orbital polisher with the Rupes blue compounding pad.
After polishing his section 4 times, most of the dry sanding marks we gone.
Jesus Castillo was the next one to give it a shot using the Buff Pro drum polisher and Menzerna FG400. Since the paint was pretty hard and he tried in the P1500 sanded area, it needed one more compounding pass to remove the marks completely.
What most of us saw with this polisher, is that instead of leaving holograms, it will leave horizontal and vertical scratching which would be the hologram it leaves.
After Blas prepared their test spot to show us the performance of Malco’s compounds, Gabriel Romo started compounding the surface using super duty compound, and then switching to Mag1 compound. The interesting thing was that Mag1 is a medium duty compound and performed better than super duty, which removes coarser sanding marks.
The last demonstration was from Menzerna. The products used were FG400 using a wool pad, PF2500 on a yellow SM Arnold medium cutting pad, and SF4000 with a black finishing pad to do the finishing step.
After it was done, the surface was checked with a Brinkmann swirl finder light, revealing an almost perfect job.
Day 1 was over, but we took a group picture before leaving
On July 27 and 28, we celebrated our first professional detailing class, which was held in Aguascalientes Mexico.
The difference between this one and other small events we have made, was the reach and the importance of this one, since we counted with the assistance of manufacturer representatives from Menzerna, Meguiar’s, Malco, and a national brand by the name of Auto Finish which also carries products from Chemical Guys.
I would like to thank Autogeek and Mike in advance for the sponsorship package you sent us for this event.
Most people were professionals with different levels of experience, and some enthusiasts too, so it was going to be a very fun class.
Things started at 830am and the people started to arrive. Meanwhile, the manufacturer representatives started to show their products.
The Menzerna Line, Indasa and Starcke abrasives, Microfiber towels and SM Arnold buffing pads offered by Indamex
Meguiar’s products
Autofinish and Chemical Guys Products
After the representatives put their products, we started to give the event’s shirt to every assistant
After eating breakfast, now everyone’s ready to pay attention and start the class. For this part, we gave everyone a slide handout so we could all keep up with the topics explained.
Before starting, everyone presented themselves, including the representatives:
Victor Silva from Meguiar’s
Ivan Garcia from Autofinish
Gabriel Romo from Malco (AQ Service)
Blas Rivera from Malco (AQ Service)
And Victor Aguilar from Menzerna (Indamex)
The topics that were covered were:
Paint defects
Products available for detailing (waxes, polishes, compounds, buffing pads, clay bars, etc)
An explanation about the abrasive technologies: from the sharp non diminishing ones to the new SMAT technologies.
Sandpaper: wet and dry systems, sandpaper gradings and charts, and grading differences (CAMI, FEPA and JIS).
Machines available for detailing: rotary, orbital and forced rotation. Even though we didn’t include it, Jesus Castillo from JCR Pro brought the Buff Pro drum polisher.
A brief explanation about different paint systems: base coats, low, medium, high, and ultra high solids paint and what we can expect when buffing each paint system.
What “aggressive means” when referring to paint correction.
And for last, how important the use of Masking tape is when doing a detail.
Different foam pads were shown to the assistants: from wool pads to specialty pads like Lake Country’s foamed wool pad.
These pads are from the Buff Pro Machine: one foam pad and the cutting wool pad
Some people were new to Microfiber pads which were also shown
After the pad topic, I asked Victor Aguilar from Indamex to give a brief explanation about the difference between wet and dry sandpaper, and how the backing affects the scratch pattern.
What he explained was that film backing makes the scratch pattern much more uniform than a paper backing in a sanding disc (or normal sandpaper in which most cases they’re made out of paper), because paper is not as uniform as the plastic backing. And after some testing made further, this is true.
After some other topics were covered, one that was not in the list came out and started a discussion which focused in how to educate our market to take care of their car correctly, and how we could all make an effort to make this happen. So that’s when the “AMD” logo in our shirt started to become a solid project focused in this specific goal.
Once this was discussed and the topics were all covered, we took a break and had lunch to then continue with the representative’s introduction of their products.
For this part, we painted a hood in solid black with a Valspar fast drying high solids clear coat (AC4400). Even though it had dried for 3 days, it was pretty hard to sand and buff. But the purpose of using a hard clear was to put the products in a situation most of us struggle with.
To make it even more challenging, the hood was wet sanded with P1500 (Indasa Redline) sandpaper in two parts. But one part was dry sanded with P1500 (Indasa Film) and then refined with a 3000 finishing disc (Indasa Rhynofinish dry)
Victor Aguilar doing the refinement with the 3000 disc with a PC in the dry sanded area
Blas from Malco wetsanding their part to show us how their compounds perform
Once the areas were sanded the tests started. The first one to give it a try was Luis perez using Meguiar’s M105 and the Rupes LHR15 orbital polisher with the Rupes blue compounding pad.
After polishing his section 4 times, most of the dry sanding marks we gone.
Jesus Castillo was the next one to give it a shot using the Buff Pro drum polisher and Menzerna FG400. Since the paint was pretty hard and he tried in the P1500 sanded area, it needed one more compounding pass to remove the marks completely.
What most of us saw with this polisher, is that instead of leaving holograms, it will leave horizontal and vertical scratching which would be the hologram it leaves.
After Blas prepared their test spot to show us the performance of Malco’s compounds, Gabriel Romo started compounding the surface using super duty compound, and then switching to Mag1 compound. The interesting thing was that Mag1 is a medium duty compound and performed better than super duty, which removes coarser sanding marks.
The last demonstration was from Menzerna. The products used were FG400 using a wool pad, PF2500 on a yellow SM Arnold medium cutting pad, and SF4000 with a black finishing pad to do the finishing step.
After it was done, the surface was checked with a Brinkmann swirl finder light, revealing an almost perfect job.
Day 1 was over, but we took a group picture before leaving
