Do Collinites have any self cleaning ability?

[nubaseal]

I am currently using Sonax Polymer Netshield and Gtechniq C2V3. Both have good water behavior and self clean to a great extent. I keep hearing about Collinites being legendary in durability. What does that really mean, do they self clean at all or is it just that they continue to bead for a long time?

I tried 476 once and found it to be rather difficult and pointless in this day and age.

 

[FUNX650]

If a person was correlating the degree of hydrophobicity of an LSP-product with its self-cleaning properties and abilities...then: The contact angle of (water)-beading may be of significant value.

•When the contact angle is greater than 90 degrees:
-It is considered to be hydrophobic

•When the contact angle is greater than 150 degrees:
-It is considered to be "super-hydrophobic"

•A freshly waxed vehicle has a contact angle of ~90 degrees:
-Doing the math...Waxes do not appear to be very capable of having self-cleaning properties or abilities.


Bob

 

[nubaseal]

Thank you, that's very helpful.

So what is all the hype about Collinite then?

 

[pld]

Thank you, that's very helpful.

So what is all the hype about Collinite then?

Price--->Look's and Durability:dblthumb2:Too many other LSP's out there are waaay too expensive for what you are getting out of them.

 

[nubaseal]

I agree they are well priced. I also agree they probably look good. What I am not sure is what you mean by "Durability". If they don't self clean at all, then what is the durability for?

 

[FUNX650]

Thank you, that's very helpful.

You're Welcome!

So what is all the hype about Collinite then?

I agree they are well priced. I also agree they probably look good. What I am not sure is what you mean by "Durability". If they don't self clean at all, then what is the durability for?

On one hand...Is it:
•Which of the following statements best describes Waxes (and probably most other LSPs)?

-Durability (time measurement) is based on: "It's still beading"
-Beading equals Protection

Or:

•Which of the following statements most illicitly describes Waxes (and probably most other LSPs?

-Durability (time measurement) is based on: "It's still beading"
-Beading equals Protection.
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But, meanwhile, on the other hand...Is it:
•What is the difference between a Wax-product that imbues shine...versus a Wax-product that imbues gloss?

-What is Gloss?
Gloss is where light is allowed to pass through a substance/material, so the light illuminates and reflects the substrate.
(Such is the relationship between a "perfected", polished CC, and the BC. The reflected color dazzles the eyes!!)

-What is Shine?
Shine is where the light is reflected before it reaches the substrate. (The reflected light dazzles the eyes!!)

-Waxes' (and their silicones) refractive indices?

-Determined by individual Human perception ("eye of the beholder")?
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OK...Maybe none of the above piqued your interest...Then:

•Perhaps it's just the fact of a simple collocation:

-"Collinite's Waxes are: Legendary"!!

-Now...Who wants to be the one responsible for:
Messing up a Legend? No...Not I...!!


Bob

 

[pld]

I agree they are well priced. I also agree they probably look good. What I am not sure is what you mean by "Durability". If they don't self clean at all, then what is the durability for?

Collinite takes me through a hard winter of snow and salt(4 months) enough said; let's not get technical here and debate about it. It is what it is, one of the best.:dblthumb2:If your worried about Collinite use DG 601/105 combo:dblthumb2:Or spend $1000.00 for an oz of boutique wax.

 

[MarkD51]

I don't believe we have anything yet that truly shrugs dirts, contaminants.

Everything will vary to an extent. Apply anything you like, and then go 4-wheeling through a mud pit. How much of it will come easily off with just a garden hose, and no mopping down? None of them.

I think one major importance, is that after the hosing down, mopping down, washing, drying, what is left behind, and for how long?

Washes are an inevitable "evil" that must be performed at some point. And it seems to me that even the high tech coatings don't really fare a heck of a lot better, at eliminating user induced swirling-scratching.

In fact I would go as far to say that waxes like Collinite actually protect against such in their own way. Is it "self healing", a softer more forgiving layer, akin to like you applying a coat of Crisco grease on your paint, a softer layer, versus some rock hard layer which very might well be actually more susceptible to fine swirling-scratching? Are any a match for fine dusts-dirts, which in some cases are actually "mini-rocks"?

Tough to say?

All I can say about Collinite, that with periodic application, one can maintain a showroom like appearance for many years.

A cheap can of #476 should last an end user quite a long time.

 

[pld]

Mark, well said