Does Megs Ultimate Wax streak?

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Today I set out to find the answer and ended up making a short video. I used the paste Ultimate Wax and I had absolutely no streaking issues. This stuff needs to be applied VERY thin. You need almost nothing on the applicator pad.

[video=youtube_share;hczxnOzV3s4"]Meguiars Ultimate Paste Wax - NO STREAKING! - YouTube[/video]

Let me know what you guys think.
 
I wasn't a fan of it, i tried it when i clayed my car (before I found AG) and didn't like the results. Since then I have learned much and had moved away from Megs.
 
CAMAROZL1 said:
I wasn't a fan of it, i tried it when i clayed my car (before I found AG) and didn't like the results. Since then I have learned much and had moved away from Megs.
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What exactly didn't you like about it? I found it very easy to work with and from what I could see it gave the finish a nice sharpness to it. This was all on a white car though so we'll see what happens when I try it on my black Si.
 
for me personally i didn't like the application process, it was hard to see where the wax was put on. I didn't under nor over use Megs. but for me personally it just wasn't what I thought it be. I have a white tacoma and have tried other products and the Megs just didn't give me the gloss or depth I was looking for. Good luck on the Si though hope to see some pics
 
The liquid version streaks but I didn't experience streaking when I used the paste version. I love the paste version.
 
Never had any troubles with it either. My only quirk with Ultimate Wax would be it's durability, although that's not SO bad on horizontal panels.

It's slick, it shines nicely and it's easy peasy to apply and remove .... oh and it smells nice too :Picture:
 
Other plusses, it can be used in the direct sun and doesn't stain trim. In fact, it makes trim look freshly dressed and lasts a long time. Tough to remove from pads so if that is any indication it has to be a pretty durable sealant.

I used the liquid and have not encountered streaking but i've seen that comment from others. I suspect it may react differently on different paint or with different prep. Meg's has suggested, if you encounter streaking, to apply and remove a panel at a time and not let it cure before removing. Haven't fond the need to use it in that manner but you might try it if you encounter streaking. I also observed a slight darkening of the paint almost like a carnauba.
 
I've had issues ... Many... No matter how light and thin you go.
I didn't watch your video as I immediately saw your car is silver and you can't see crap on silver.... You could prob forget to buff it off and not notice LOL
Bring your camera and stuff over to my house and
Let's try it oin my black Tahoe then we'll see :)
 
onlycodered said:
.... You need almost nothing on the applicator pad.
Let me know what you guys think.
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Quit following the directions!

It's very important to apply too much and leave it on too long and not follow directions. Attention to details like the above will ensure streaking. I should know. :)

Finally, Last time, I took a microfiber applicator with a very minute nap, wet it, wrung it out and put about as much wax on it as you.

It was so slippery it almost flew out of my hand. I couldn't see any wax on the surface except after struggling to find a correct angle from the sun.

I am not going to let a manufacturer tell me how to apply its product. so of course, I wet the applicator. ;)
 
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While I haven't used the paste version, I've used Ultimate Liquid Wax three times so far on my car. I'm getting progressively better at applying thinly and getting the timing down (letting it sit no longer than five minutes before wiping), but I'm still experiencing streaking. Add that to the fact that it's so difficult to tell where I have and have not applied wax, and it's just not worth the trouble.

If durability was a factor for me, I might continue to hone my technique, but my car gets two coats of wax at least monthly, so I'll stick with NXT2.0 (or M21, when I run out of NXT) for its ease of application.

Hopefully a UW2.0 will be part of Meg's 2012 lineup.
 
CAMAROZL1 said:
for me personally i didn't like the application process, it was hard to see where the wax was put on. I didn't under nor over use Megs. but for me personally it just wasn't what I thought it be. I have a white tacoma and have tried other products and the Megs just didn't give me the gloss or depth I was looking for. Good luck on the Si though hope to see some pics
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I used it on a white Infiniti- it was a little bit on the difficult side trying to see where it was and wasn't yet applied, but once I was done I was completely happy. Extremely shiny, and wet-looking, especially for white, and we're about 4 weeks after waxing now and it still looks really nice. I'm definitely going to use this stuff again..
 
Just a short and sweet reply...

Use UW liquid on both white and black vehicles...no streak.

Applied with a DA (gold pad), do a section/panel, put down buffer, wipe off. Repeat over the rest of the car/truck.

Repeat the whole process (for the second coat) to be sure everything is coated.

Bill
 
Through the years I've found most of the problems we have with products are user induced and typically during the application. Generally if a little is good then more just has to be better right? NOT

Light uniform coverage of a product in a cool shaded environment is a recipe for success. If you're thinking that you've applied the product too thin it's probably just about right.

Throughout the years these are the three most common causes I've discovered that leads to streaking:

  • Over applying a product
  • Product has not hazed or is not dry enough
  • Surface was too hot
 
I like to go between thin and medium when applying waxes and like to give them time set up and bond... Scientifically speaking I find it hard to grasp that a really thin coat is really bonding to the panel ... I mean I could apply a coat of WD40 really thin and get away with it! But isn't the whole point of waxing to let the proper polymers and carnubas actually bond to the paint!?!?!
I don't put up a fuss when I get the occasional streak here and there... It just come with the territory I guess... A little QD and were good, all the time. Having used AG HD religiously I guess I've grown a little more patient with difficult waxes (btw I cleared out walmart and have a case of them)!
Since I'm talking about AGHD, I will say that I did a 50/50 on my jet ski 4 months ago with Col845 and while Col845 does still bead it doesn't sheet as good as AGHD
 
Just to chime in...

Streaks are normally just residues unremoved... (what else could it be?)

A painted surface will only hold so much product before the rest become excess and this could be what you're seeing. Sometimes the residues will flash off with a little time, sometimes you can remove them using a little spray detailer, sometimes you can remove them by simply wiping very slowly using a clean, plush microfiber towel.


The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish



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Mike beat me to this.

I think most waxes CAN streak if not removed enough.

THIN COATS
Surface prep
Swipe test
Final wipe

When I graduated from beach towel, dish soap and green can wax removed with bath towel, I had Gold Class wax streak after I laid it on thick and was still not dry enough to remove. I spent more time getting it better than if I waited enough time.
 
fredcandetail said:
I like to go between thin and medium when applying waxes and like to give them time set up and bond... Scientifically speaking I find it hard to grasp that a really thin coat is really bonding to the panel ... I mean I could apply a coat of WD40 really thin and get away with it! But isn't the whole point of waxing to let the proper polymers and carnubas actually bond to the paint!?!?!
I don't put up a fuss when I get the occasional streak here and there... It just come with the territory I guess... A little QD and were good, all the time. Having used AG HD religiously I guess I've grown a little more patient with difficult waxes (btw I cleared out walmart and have a case of them)!
Since I'm talking about AGHD, I will say that I did a 50/50 on my jet ski 4 months ago with Col845 and while Col845 does still bead it doesn't sheet as good as AGHD
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Fred, the one main difference in the application of Ultimate Wax is due to the fact that it's completely synthetic. It's technically a sealant, Meguiar's just calls it a wax so the general public is less confused. Sealants are typically able to be spread much thinner without compromising their ability to bond.

I'm glad to hear of your success with AGHD though. I've been looking for a good long-lasting carnauba to try out.

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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Just to chime in...

Streaks are normally just residues unremoved... (what else could it be?)

A painted surface will only hold so much product before the rest become excess and this could be what you're seeing. Sometimes the residues will flash off with a little time, sometimes you can remove them using a little spray detailer, sometimes you can remove them by simply wiping very slowly using a clean, plush microfiber towel.


The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish



:xyxthumbs:
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Thanks Mike! I actually read that article recently and I have found that it is definitely easier for me to work slower when wiping off excess wax. I usually miss less spots as well as it's easier for me to keep track of what areas I have already hit with my microfiber. This is especially helpful when working with Megs UW as it's already difficult to see where it's been applied. A final inspection with a spotlight is always a good idea as well.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Just to chime in...

Streaks are normally just residues unremoved... (what else could it be?)

A painted surface will only hold so much product before the rest become excess and this could be what you're seeing. Sometimes the residues will flash off with a little time, sometimes you can remove them using a little spray detailer, sometimes you can remove them by simply wiping very slowly using a clean, plush microfiber towel.


The Final Wipe – Tips for creating a streak-free, show car finish



:xyxthumbs:
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In fact, someone on DW measured the thickness of the coating left by a variety of waxes and sealants, and found that you're looking at a layer that's around 20 nanometers thick (1nm = 1/1,000,000,000 of a meter, or 1/50,000 of a human hair). So you're really just wasting product if you don't apply thinly.
 
On my Mustang, I thought it was great. On my Sorento, I had a hard time getting the streaks off. Mixed results.
 
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