Does Polish Clean Like Cleaner Wax?

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Most waxes seem to be cleaner waxes. And I like cleaner wax because most of the old cars I buy have ground in dirt that mere washing does not get out. The cleaner wax gets a lot of that dirt out.

I have been reading that synthetic polish lasts longer than wax, so I would like to use it for that, but will polish clean the ground in dirt like (cleaner) wax does?
 
TomBrooklyn said:
Most waxes seem to be cleaner waxes. And I like cleaner wax because most of the old cars I buy have ground in dirt that mere washing does not get out. The cleaner wax gets a lot of that dirt out.

I have been reading that synthetic polish lasts longer than wax, so I would like to use it for that, but will polish clean the ground in dirt like (cleaner) wax does?
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Sounds like this is the perfect product for what you want to accomplish: Wolfgang Uber All In One, cleaner wax, all in one polish wax
 
Cleaner waxes work using chemicals and sometimes mild abrasives to remove stains and very minor paint defects. Some have very good filling abilities as well.

You say "synthetic polish", but the term polish isn't used much now. It has been replaced by LSP, Last Step Product.

Finish waxes and Sealants typically do not remove staining, oxidation of water spots like a Cleaner Wax can.

Here is a good starting point:

Car Wax, paint Sealants,Car Waxes, Show Car Wax, Best Car Wax, Carnauba Car wax, P21s Car wax, Pinnacle Souveran Wax, Meguiars car wax, Mothers
 
Lots of confusion in the naming of car-care products.
For example:
-There is at least one Company that designates
their polishes as being paint cleaners.
-Glazes...what in the dickins is a Glaze?
Good Luck in finding a universally accepted definition!


IMHO:
Here's a couple of excellent MP articles that sorts-out some of the confusion:

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...nds-polishes-glazes-paint-cleaners-waxes.html

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...erence-between-cleaner-wax-finishing-wax.html


Bob
 
The cleaning ability of cleaner/wax products varies. The best approach is to use a separate paint cleaner then wax/sealant to get the best results but you can also use a cleaner/wax stronger in cleaning and add another layer of wax (something with less cleaners) to improve the protection.

For example, if you were using Blackfire products, you could use Total Polish and Seal to clean/protect then top with Wet Diamonds for added protection.
 
Waxes, which you buy in pots, are paste waxes. They are pretty much solid lumps. These are NOT cleaner waxes.

Waxes - which are liquid creams, are actually water containing products, will mostly be cleaner waxes.

Do NOT mix these two.

I have explained elsewhere that the base for a liquid product is going to be what many people seem to call a pre-wax cleanser. Almost all the other liquid products will be this PLUS something else. So, for instance, a cleaner wax will be a pre-wax cleaner which has wax added. A basic polish will be a pre-wax cleaner with abrasive added. A compound will be the same but with more aggressive abrasives. An all in one can have wax AND abrasive. They are all the same family.

So, in answer to the question, a 'polish' will almost certainly have the same cleaning capabilities as your cleaner wax or a pre-wax cleaner.
 
It should be noted that if you are currently using a cleaner wax that is liquid, then you are using a synthetic product.

Since terminology isn't standardized, it's important to understand what the product is actually doing.

All the below products are All-in-One type products:
Duragloss Total Performance Polish
Wolfgang Uber All-in-one
Meguiars #6 cleaner wax
Collonite Sapphire auto wax
Griots One-step sealant

1/5 are actually named all-in-one, the rest could easily be confused with a different type of product.

It sounds like you want to continue using an all-in-one product. If that's the case, which product are you using now? Knowing this we can likely recommend a more durable alternative.

If you want to step your game up, then use a designated polish before sealing. The polishing step won't take much longer than using a cleaner wax; and sealing should be very fast, so you will spend a little extra time, but get better results from both products.
 
PiPUK said:
Waxes, which you buy in pots, are paste waxes. They are pretty much solid lumps. These are NOT cleaner waxes.

Waxes - which are liquid creams, are actually water containing products, will mostly be cleaner waxes.

Do NOT mix these two.
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^^^Is this always true?^^^

For example:

Meguiar's Cleaner Wax...A-12 (Liquid form):



Meguiar's Cleaner Wax...A-12 (Paste form):




Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
^^^Is this always true?^^^

For example:

Meguiar's Cleaner Wax...A-12 (Liquid form):



Meguiar's Cleaner Wax...A-12 (Paste form):




Bob
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I know it is megs but I disagree with them. The question is how the cleaning is done. With a paste type wax, you are using tiny amounts of products. There simply is not enough solvent to do it and there is also the concern as to where the 'dirt' is going.

Of course the second product could be just a thicker version of the first, not a solid lump of wax... That much I don't know.

So I'm sticking to my guns here.
 
PiPUK said:
Waxes, which you buy in pots, are paste waxes. They are pretty much solid lumps. These are NOT cleaner waxes.

Waxes - which are liquid creams, are actually water containing products, will mostly be cleaner waxes.

Do NOT mix these two.

I have explained elsewhere that the base for a liquid product is going to be what many people seem to call a pre-wax cleanser. Almost all the other liquid products will be this PLUS something else. So, for instance, a cleaner wax will be a pre-wax cleaner which has wax added. A basic polish will be a pre-wax cleaner with abrasive added. A compound will be the same but with more aggressive abrasives. An all in one can have wax AND abrasive. They are all the same family.

So, in answer to the question, a 'polish' will almost certainly have the same cleaning capabilities as your cleaner wax or a pre-wax cleaner.
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Great information, as always

Thanks
 
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