Does Zymol Wax Actually Last??

[MobolWerks]

Mike,

I have heard from many people, websites, etc. that Zymol Waxes look great, but last about a month..

I'm curious if that is true..

Secondly, what is the biggest visual and durability difference between Zymol and what I currently use, which is P21S Concours-Look Wax???

Feed back please

 

[O.C.Detailing]

Most waxes only last 2-4 weeks anyway, even synthetic waxes. A sealant offers MUCH longer protection and with the newer formulas, they look almost as nice as the best waxes you can buy. If you prefer some of the depth a wax can give, you can just put a coat of your favorite wax on top of the sealant after it cures.

 

[MobolWerks]

Right now my combo is Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, followed by (2) coats of P21S...

What's your thoughts, and would you replace either of those??? if so why??

 

[O.C.Detailing]

I wouldn't change a thing. Just remember that you have to reapply the wax every few weeks or so.

We use Wolfgang Sealant 3.0 and it's awesome. Haven't used the P21S, but I've read it's pretty nice wax. There are better, but it's still a great wax.

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

The higher the nuba content the longer a wax will last. So say you use Vintage, it will last for awhile.

 

[MobolWerks]

What is an example of better wax in the same price point??

Also, are Zymols claims of their wax for Toyota's being different from their wax for Volvo's actually true??? Or is it just marketing??

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

What is an example of better wax in the same price point??

Also, are Zymols claims of their wax for Toyota's being different from their wax for Volvo's actually true??? Or is it just marketing??

That is just like Swissvax, it is all marketing. When you get to that price point there really is only Zymol and Swissvax.

 

[Streetlife]

Just marketing. Go ahead and jump on the BOGO special here at Autogeek and get the mini Wolfgang Fuzion Wax, you won't regret it. Also, your not going to have to think about the make and model of your vehicle, you are getting a top quality product to use on the paint regardless of what you drive.:dblthumb2:

 

[MobolWerks]

So where would you go if you were stepping up a price point or two from P21S, Zymol, Swissvax???

....and would a customer actually notice the difference (whether I would notice becomes fairly irrelivant if the customer is looking for a certain price for the overall service)

 

[Streetlife]

That is just like Swissvax, it is all marketing. When you get to that price point there really is only Zymol and Swissvax.

I agree Asphalt, that's how they're. I'm not knocking them as good wax makers, they are two good high end wax companies, just not good enough to justify the cost to me. If anyone is happy with them, i say buy from them.

 

[Streetlife]

So where would you go if you were stepping up a price point or two from P21S, Zymol, Swissvax???

....and would a customer actually notice the difference (whether I would notice becomes fairly irrelivant if the customer is looking for a certain price for the overall service)

The most important part of detailing is your prep. If your starting out as a detailer you don't need a Zymol or Swissvax just to prove you know what you are doing as a detailer, your skills in your prep will create the true foundation for a complete beautiful detail, wax is just the icing on the cake. Granted, you do want a good high end carnauba wax. It takes time to find the waxes that best fit your taste for your wax collection.

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

So where would you go if you were stepping up a price point or two from P21S, Zymol, Swissvax???

....and would a customer actually notice the difference (whether I would notice becomes fairly irrelivant if the customer is looking for a certain price for the overall service)

Swissvax-Concorso, Zymol-Concours. You have to understand that it isn't the wax that makes the shine. It is the correct defect removal and polishing steps that achieve that great shine, depth, and clarity. The wax is just there to protect all your hard work.

I agree Asphalt, that's how they're. I'm not knocking them as a good wax makers, they are two good high end wax companies, just not good enough to justify the cost to me. If anyone is happy with them, i say buy from them.

I have them, happy maybe, at the time I was-lol.

 

[MobolWerks]

So if that is the case, why not just slap some Turtle Wax over your masterpiece???? Seriously though, would it not give the same result for a little less cost than the Swissvax????

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

So if that is the case, why not just slap some Turtle Wax over your masterpiece???? Seriously though, would it not give the same result for a little less cost than the Swissvax????

The reason why some use these waxes because it makes it so much easier to wash. The water literally falls off do to the nuba content.

 

[Streetlife]

So if that is the case, why not just slap some Turtle Wax over your masterpiece???? Seriously though, would it not give the same result for a little less cost than the Swissvax????

The whole point of high end waxes are high end ingredients. Turtle wax is created for the person who just wants their car to shine for the weekend, and waxes that are bought over the counter are cleaner waxes. After doing a proper detail you will know that you have cleaned the paint as much as possible, so a store bought wax will defeat the purpose of complete prep work. Just keep doing your research here at Autogeek, you'll learn, it takes time.

 

[Streetlife]

The reason why some use these waxes because it makes it so much easier to wash. The water literally falls off do to the nuba content.

That's true too, another of many advantages of buying high end waxes. Asphalt, you taught me a few things in the past on products, i just wanna thank you.rops:

 

[MobolWerks]

Didn't think about the "cleaner factor".. I guess more precisely, I would ask if you could come to the same result with S100 as P21S - same general wax, with a lower amount of nuba

 

[Streetlife]

Didn't think about the "cleaner factor".. I guess more precisely, I would ask if you could come to the same result with S100 as P21S - same general wax, with a lower amount of nuba

From what i was told about those two, they're pretty much the same. The one with the higher carnauba content will provide more durability, longer protection. Also, the one with the higher carnauba content will make daily washing easier.

 

[MobolWerks]

Enough said.. By the way, what is the wax in the $30-$60 range that contains the most carnauba???

 

[ASPHALT ROCKET]

That's true too, another of many advantages of buying high end waxes. Asphalt, you taught me a few things in the past on products, i just wanna thank you.rops:

You are welcome, glad I could help.

Didn't think about the "cleaner factor".. I guess more precisely, I would ask if you could come to the same result with S100 as P21S - same general wax, with a lower amount of nuba

If you properly polish the paint you will be hard pressed to see any difference between a lower end wax vs. a higher end wax.