Dressing won't stick to tires.

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I've searched all over the Internet and this forum looking for a solution. I just purchased a new set of tires that either repel or soak in all the dressing. I've seen this I'm the past detailing people's cars with these type of tires and would like to get some advice how to properly go about this?
 
From experience with new motorcycle tires, it's always been said that new tires have some type of coating on them, and usually feels a little greasy. Whether it's just residue from the molding process like a release agent or something coated afterwards, I'm not sure. I know that a protective coating is put on white lettering that's usually scrubbed off with soap and water when mounting if they are going to mount it with the white on the outside. It's usually blue and you can still see it on the inner side of tires if they didn't clean it before mounting. You might have to give them a good scrub with a degreaser or all purpose cleaner.
 
It sounds like the tires still have mold release on them, as Aurora stated. This is a waxy substance applied to the tire mold to keep the rubber from sticking during the vulcanization process (elevated temperature). It will wear off over time, or scrubbing with a tire cleaner or APC should take it off.
 
As stated previously, the coating needs to be removed. You'll want to scrub a few times to ensure it is all removed before dressing.
 
~20 minutes of figure eights, and
a couple of burnouts, should be
enough to scuff-in those tires...:dblthumb2:


Bob
 
i have always heard about mold release on tires.
But i have this set of Bridgestone RE07 tires that just refuses to accept ANY tire dressing i use.
It would just smear on the tire even after u let it sit for overnight.

This is the second time i washed them, scrubbed down with multiple cleaners, none have done anything to the tires.

Getting pissed off that i am about the buy a new set and forget about it.
 
Have you tried any citrus based cleaners? I forgot the actual name of the chemical but it's something like D-limonene that is found in those products.
 
Have you tried Tuff Shine tire cleaner?

It works significantly better than most APCs IME.


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FUNX650 said:
~20 minutes of figure eights, and
a couple of burnouts, should be
enough to scuff-in those tires...:dblthumb2:


Bob[/QUOTThe problem here, Bob, is that he's trying to dress his side walls and not the threads.:xyxthumbs:
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EvolutionDetail said:
i have always heard about mold release on tires.
But i have this set of Bridgestone RE07 tires that just refuses to accept ANY tire dressing i use.
It would just smear on the tire even after u let it sit for overnight.

This is the second time i washed them, scrubbed down with multiple cleaners, none have done anything to the tires.

Getting pissed off that i am about the buy a new set and forget about it.
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That's strange.
If I'm not mistaken:

Bridgestone is one of the tire
manufacturers who swears that,
because they now use very high
quality tire molds: their tires do not
have any release agents in/on them.


•Regardless...
-How many miles and "heat cycles" do
you now have on these tires?
-Can make a difference...
before attempting to apply "dressings".



Bob
 
FUNX650 said:
That's strange.
If I'm not mistaken:

Bridgestone is one of the tire
manufacturers who swears that,
because they now use very high
quality tire molds: their tires do not
have any release agents in/on them.


•Regardless...
-How many miles and "heat cycles" do
you now have on these tires?
-Can make a difference...
before attempting to apply "dressings".



Bob
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I got them mounted back in Feb 2016? The car isa garage queen, so probably only drive a tankful of gas so far.
Cleaned them as soon as i got them mounted, then again this weekend.

They are about 6months old so far?
 
yeah I hope not evolution detail, these are hankook v12 evo i had Yokohama s drives which are great with dressing. Should've stuck with another set of those. I'm very ocd and it just bothers the crap out of me. But I'll dry a few more scrubs and see if it gets better, thanks guys.
 
EvolutionDetail said:
I got them mounted back in Feb 2016? The car isa garage queen, so probably only drive a tankful of gas so far.
Cleaned them as soon as i got them mounted, then again this weekend.

They are about 6months old so far?
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•Some tires have, for my lack of a better term:
a "break-in" period.


•This is a before picture...before these
new high-performance, Summer-only tires
had accumulated many miles, or "heat cycles":
No dressings...they wouldn't stick!

watermark.php


•This is an "after" picture...after 14 months,
4,000 miles, and quite a few "heat cycles":
Dressings...like Meguiar's M40; and Optimum's
Opti-Bond...now stick like a mo'fo!!

watermark.php


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IMO:
Sounds like your tires may have
not yet managed to meet their
"break-in" requirements.



Bob
 
I had a similar issue when I put my current set of Hankook Ventus RS3 on my Subie. The only thing that worked to strip down the sidewall was a few rounds of Brakleen. Sprayed on terry rags and wiped tires numerous times. This helped but like Bob said, after I had put a few miles on it seemed to get better.
I also use DP tire cleaner/rejuvenator on them and it has performed better than any APC and Tuff Shine.
 
I think the Bob called it. Frankly, I think the best a tire ever looks is when it's still new enough that there's no reason to apply a dressing, and when I use a dressing, my goal is to return it to that appearance. But that's me.

Sort of relevant:

"The anti-aging chemicals used in the rubber compounds are more effective when the tire is "exercised" on a frequent basis. The repeated stretching of the rubber compound actually helps resist cracks forming. The tires used on vehicles that are driven infrequently, or accumulate low annual mileage are more likely to experience cracking because long periods of parking or storage interrupt "working" the rubber. In addition to being an annoyance to show car owners, this condition often frustrates motor home and recreational vehicle owners who only take occasional trips and cannot even park their vehicle in a garage or shaded area. Using tire covers at least minimizes direct exposure to sunlight."

The anti-aging chemicals in those new tires is likely still preventing a dressing from "sticking" to the sidewalls. Do they still look new?
 
Yeah they still look new. I'll try and just wait it out if it continues I'll come back for an update.
 
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