Dried Polish Splatter Removal?

Tim711

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Hi,
I am performing my first paint correction on my brand new car. I have been taking my time with the whole project as I want to learn as much as I can along the way. I have corrected all the panels with 5" and 3" pads. The roof needed more attention and I polished this last which caused a lot of dusting/splatter over many panels. I foolishly did not remove this immediately and it has been there for some time now.

I have tried CarPro Eraser and Gyeon Prep with high quality Microfiber towels but the majority of the dried splatter remains as it does not want to come off easily. Do you have any advice to how I should remove these dried spots without marring the metallic black finish? My thought was that maybe polishing on a very low speed, maybe even 1 on my 6" GG, may remove them with ease?

Thank you for your help,
Tim
 
What polish did you use? Normally a mf towel and a couple light sprays of water works. If it's really bad you may have to polish over it again.

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I used Menzerna SF-3800 polish and Microfiber Madness Yellow Fellow towels but the polish has been dried for 5-6 weeks.

What polish did you use? Normally a mf towel and a couple light sprays of water works. If it's really bad you may have to polish over it again.

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Going to need to polish it again to get it off most likely. Do a test spot and see what happens


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Ok, I will try a test spot, thanks.

Going to need to polish it again to get it off most likely. Do a test spot and see what happens

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Would it make sense to try a low speed like 1-2 and not work the polish but rather move quickly and not slow as I don't need to do "work" the paint anymore? If this were to remove the spots quickly, would this have a negative affect on the look of the already corrected paint by not finishing the polish down (not as clear / marring)?
 
Yeah, Eraser doesn't work that well for this purpose. What works for me is to take any polish (finishing polish, not a cutting polish), sealant, wax, or glaze (I use stuff that I want to get rid of), use a soft pad, and buff the dried polish lightly by hand or machine. This wipes out the particles. Let dry, then wipe off and you're good to go.
 
Why don't you try washing the car instead of polishing the panels again. It is not abnormal to wash the car after polishing especially after a messy session of compounding. Sometime its the best way to get rid of all the dusting.
 
The panit is black metallic and I would prefer to avoid any possibility of marring the paint that is already corrected.

Why don't you try washing the car instead of polishing the panels again. It is not abnormal to wash the car after polishing especially after a messy session of compounding. Sometime its the best way to get rid of all the dusting.
 
Why don't you try washing the car instead of polishing the panels again. It is not abnormal to wash the car after polishing especially after a messy session of compounding. Sometime its the best way to get rid of all the dusting.

I always give the vehicle a gentle wash after a full correction, consider it part of the wipe down process.
 
Hi,
I am performing my first paint correction on my brand new car. I have been taking my time with the whole project as I want to learn as much as I can along the way. I have corrected all the panels with 5" and 3" pads. The roof needed more attention and I polished this last which caused a lot of dusting/splatter over many panels. I foolishly did not remove this immediately and it has been there for some time now.

I have tried CarPro Eraser and Gyeon Prep with high quality Microfiber towels but the majority of the dried splatter remains as it does not want to come off easily.

Do you have any advice to how I should remove these dried spots without marring the metallic black finish? My thought was that maybe polishing on a very low speed, maybe even 1 on my 6" GG, may remove them with ease?

Thank you for your help,
Tim


Hi Tim,

Thanks for asking this question, I know I've made this mistake and I'm sure others have too.... and when working on >your< brand new BLACK car the last thing you want to do is make a mistake.


Here's my take and what I would do...

Washing is an option. I think in this situation, because the splatter dots of polish have completely dried onto the paint and because you say that wiping with solvents is not 100% effective, my guess is washing them off which means rubbing some type of wash mitt over the paint with a soap WILL loosen and remove the splatter dots but my "guess" is the rubbing of the mitt, loosening and removing stuck-on splatter dots will in and of itself cause marring. And even if it doesn't produce a lot of easily visible marring if it were me I would re-polish after washing and drying.


If I'm right about the above scenario, that is if I wash the car I'll still end up polishing the paint a second time, then I would skip washing and simply re-polish. In my scenario I would be doing this anyways so might as well try it first and if it works you save a LOT of time and work.

Also, my guess is the majority of the splatter dots are on the horizontal surfaces below the roof line, that is the hood, trunk lid and front and rear windows? They is probably some on the tops of the fenders but not much on the vertical panels?


So just buzz over all the horizontal panels the same way you did the first time. If you used a foam "polishing" pad for the last polishing step then repeat this process. Don't use low speed, do it exactly the same. The pad the polish and the action of the machine should completely remove all the splatter dots and when you finish polishing, wipe off the residue and move forward.


The problem you're experiencing is kind of the reason I originally came up with the

The Beach Towel Tip


Has to do wit me being lazy and not liking wiping off splatter dots off glass only to find I remove some but only push others around to new locations. Instead of messing around I just covered the windshield with a towel when using a rotary buffer on the hood.


Give the above a try...


:)
 
Also....


For everyone reading this thread into the future, (I always type for the future, never the present), here's a related article, not so much about removing splatter dots but about starting at the top of the car and working your way down...


Knock out painted roofs first, then tackle the rest of the car...


This is actually a car that Richard Lin and I wet sanded, cut and buffed years ago....

That's Richard up front and me in the back...

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:)
 
I have all but removed the chance of splatter with careful machine work when using liquidy products. I say that to reinforce not getting into this situation however it still happens. If I know I may run the risk of product splatter I cover as much as possible AND prepare an ONR bucket to take care of it promptly. I know this doesn't help you much right now, Tim, but a word of caution to avoid it next time. As always, Mike offers the best approach.

I like the wash first approach, even with splatter dried for 5 weeks. Then a soft foam pad and some fine polish to work the splatter off. Hopefully it's not all over the vehicle.
 
I would like to thank Mike and everyone for sharing their input on this situation, your support is very much appreciated. I have been away from home and haven't had a chance to revisit my paint correction.

Washing is an option. I think in this situation, because the splatter dots of polish have completely dried onto the paint and because you say that wiping with solvents is not 100% effective, my guess is washing them off which means rubbing some type of wash mitt over the paint with a soap WILL loosen and remove the splatter dots but my "guess" is the rubbing of the mitt, loosening and removing stuck-on splatter dots will in and of itself cause marring. And even if it doesn't produce a lot of easily visible marring if it were me I would re-polish after washing and drying.

If I'm right about the above scenario, that is if I wash the car I'll still end up polishing the paint a second time, then I would skip washing and simply re-polish. In my scenario I would be doing this anyways so might as well try it first and if it works you save a LOT of time and work.

I agree with your thought process, that if I were to try washing the car and use the wash mitt to loosen and remove the stuck-on splatter dots that I would want to re-polish the entire car again, even if it doesn't produce a lot of easily visible marring.

Also, my guess is the majority of the splatter dots are on the horizontal surfaces below the roof line, that is the hood, trunk lid and front and rear windows? They is probably some on the tops of the fenders but not much on the vertical panels?

Correct, you are absolutely right. There was some above the quarter panel areas as well being that it's a hatchback and some vertical panels that have a slope to them, i.e. top of doors. 2017 VW Golf R.
However, thankfully I have read your "beach towel tip" article and I had covered up the front windshield with my AG microfiber large towels and the rest of the windows with plastic sheet and tape. Thank you for another helpful article / tip. :)

So just buzz over all the horizontal panels the same way you did the first time. If you used a foam "polishing" pad for the last polishing step then repeat this process. Don't use low speed, do it exactly the same. The pad the polish and the action of the machine should completely remove all the splatter dots and when you finish polishing, wipe off the residue and move forward.

The problem you're experiencing is kind of the reason I originally came up with the

The Beach Towel Tip

Has to do wit me being lazy and not liking wiping off splatter dots off glass only to find I remove some but only push others around to new locations. Instead of messing around I just covered the windshield with a towel when using a rotary buffer on the hood.


Give the above a try...


:)

I have been away from home and haven't been able to get back to work on the paint correction but I will take your advice and try re-polishing the areas that only have splatter dots to save me a LOT of time and work. Thankfully I have read your "beach towel tip" article in the past and I covered all the windows.

Thank you so much for all your help Mike. I will try re-polishing as directed and not use a low speed. :)

What were you going to use for your LSP?

:)

I plan on trying AMMO Creme as my LSP, preceded by AMMO Reflex and Skin :)
My other car I used Wolfgang Fuzion as my LSP, preceded by WG Sealant 3.0. Weekend car; 2013 Subaru WRX STi Limited.

For everyone reading this thread into the future, (I always type for the future, never the present), here's a related article, not so much about removing splatter dots but about starting at the top of the car and working your way down...

Knock out painted roofs first, then tackle the rest of the car...

Thank you for this helpful article :)
Makes sense... At times I would get scattered and start moving to different panels such as difficult or heavily damaged first.

I have all but removed the chance of splatter with careful machine work when using liquidy products. I say that to reinforce not getting into this situation however it still happens. If I know I may run the risk of product splatter I cover as much as possible AND prepare an ONR bucket to take care of it promptly. I know this doesn't help you much right now, Tim, but a word of caution to avoid it next time. As always, Mike offers the best approach.

I like the wash first approach, even with splatter dried for 5 weeks. Then a soft foam pad and some fine polish to work the splatter off. Hopefully it's not all over the vehicle.

Thank you for your helpful input. Unfortunately, it covers a large portion of the vehicle. Do you have any recommendations of what you use to cover adjacent panels to prevent marring? Microfiber towels or drop sheets? I like to blow the panel off before polishing and after polishing using my Metro Sidekick to remove any dusting etc. but this may be difficult with panels being covered and them flapping on the paint causing marring.
 
I tape everything I don't want product getting into first. I use Mike's beach towel tip to cover large glass panels (front and rear). That really just leaves the side glass and paint exposed.

I don't "cover" panels I have yet to polish or panels I've just completed. If I get any splatter on the next panel to do I just work the splatter with that panel. If I encounter any splatter on the panel I just finished I give it a quick ONR wipe and dry. It's fresh enough to be removed easily.

I have all but removed the chance of splatter by very slowly and carefully applying that product to the panel I'm working before cranking up the machine speed. Lately the only splatter I deal with is M105 after the first series of section passes and then spritz some distilled water to work it some more. That, and ceriglass on windows!

Again, a fresh mix of ONR and a WWMF towel has been my trusty sidekick for splatter. Remove it while its fresh.
 
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