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Hey guys I am having trouble choosing a dual action polisher. I don't know if I should buy a Rupes or a Flex? I'm not sure if I would be safer learning on a forced rotation like the flex or getting a Rupes which is not forced rotation? I'm purchasing for diy use (if that helps). Basically what I'm saying is. Is forced rotation dangerous for a new person?

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DogRescuer said:
Why not start with a gg6 and work your way up
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Because I'll want more in the end. Why not get the best? I'd rather by top quality right off the bat. I'm tempted to get the Chemical Guys Torq da polisher but something screams cheap Chinese crap. They seem to cheap to be true.

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Rupes Duetto and get a Kamikaze 3" backing plate to go with it. The Duetto is smooth.

From reading, not experience, get the Flex if you want to do it faster with a little less smoothness.
 
I started with a GG6 not so long ago.

GG6 is a great machine. Matter of fact, I choose this over the MT300. Not a bad machine in any case, matter of personal preference.

In regards to a rotary or even the flex, I have no business to express thoughts about.

I currently now own Griot's Garage G21.
 
Yes there is a slightly greater risk and a bigger learning curve for a forced rotation machine.
 
Just remember if you buy a long throw polisher you are probably going to need another polisher to do 3-4" pads. So if you buy a Rupes 21 and a Rupes Mini thats $700. Then you need pads, compound, polish, clay etc. Should have spare backing plates. So expect to spend some cash.

I prefer long throw polishers over the 3401. Thats just me, most people disagree. But if you use common sense and watch videos, the 3401 would be fine for a first polisher
 
There are a few things also to consider.

Some machines do things better than others can, but in the end what is considered "the best" is hard to say. NO DOUBT in my mind the Flex for example is a killer machine, but all machines have limitations just like the user themselves.

I'm sure other people will at least agree on this.....TECHNIQUE!!!
 
7.3powerstroke said:
Just remember if you buy a long throw polisher you are probably going to need another polisher to do 3-4" pads. So if you buy a Rupes 21 and a Rupes Mini thats $700. Then you need pads, compound, polish, clay etc. Should have spare backing plates. So expect to spend some cash.

I prefer long throw polishers over the 3401. Thats just me, most people disagree. But if you use common sense and watch videos, the 3401 would be fine for a first polisher
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Great point.... Are you looking to have one does it all machine????
 
apierce1289 said:
Because I'll want more in the end. Why not get the best? I'd rather by top quality right off the bat. I'm tempted to get the Chemical Guys Torq da polisher but something screams cheap Chinese crap. They seem to cheap to be true.

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I hear what you are saying about going the next step above your current need as you will eventually want it anyway. I think an extreme example of this might be - what should I get for my first car - a Honda Accord or the <insert lovely expensive but temperamental manual transmission pre-1980 car?> My point being - if you go with the GG6 you will get a sense of the variables which play a role in successfully correcting paint - only one of which is the tool itself. The risks associated with the GG6" are lower, from my perspective than the potential problems with a Forced Rotation long throw model.

Unless I had a 'beater' car on which I was comfortable learning the nuances of a Flex 3401, Rupes, etc - I would start with a GG6".
 
Yeah I didn't want to be "that guy" but now that it was brought out...
+1 for g21 system.....

Assuming you want to go all out!

You'll experience upgrade-itis anyway!! That's a promise
 
Also coming from someone who have used gg6 to start then g21 later, the g21 is smooth.
 
apierce1289 said:
Because I'll want more in the end. Why not get the best? I'd rather by top quality right off the bat. I'm tempted to get the Chemical Guys Torq da polisher but something screams cheap Chinese crap. They seem to cheap to be true.

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I would definitely pass, CG's are not known for good customer service (like AG & GG for example to name a few who are tops) and if you have a problem (even after warranty what are you going to do?) with it you're most likely SOL. if you don't own a traditional PC-style DA then pick up a GG6 (it's been proven by many who own one on here) and a variety of DA backing plates and pads (if you already own one then get the G15/21). later you can pick up the G15/21 and you'll have pretty much all your basis covered with both (did I mention the lifetime warranty!). another good option is the flex 3401. some people look past customer service and in my book that's just as important as the product itself, I don't want to support and put money into someone's pocket if they don't care about their customers...
 
apierce1289 said:
Because I'll want more in the end. Why not get the best? I'd rather by top quality right off the bat. I'm tempted to get the Chemical Guys Torq da polisher but something screams cheap Chinese crap. They seem to cheap to be true.

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I guess I beleive start slow learn as you go and you're a dive in head first guy and hope you don't hit your head.
 
apierce1289 said:
Because I'll want more in the end. Why not get the best? I'd rather by top quality right off the bat. I'm tempted to get the Chemical Guys Torq da polisher but something screams cheap Chinese crap. They seem to cheap to be true.

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Keep in mind they have a limited warranty and they do no repairs.
 
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I would definitely pass, CG's are not known for good customer service (like AG & GG for example to name a few who are tops) and if you have a problem (even after warranty what are you going to do?) with it you're most likely SOL. if you don't own a traditional PC-style DA then pick up a GG6 (it's been proven by many who own one on here) and a variety of DA backing plates and pads (if you already own one then get the G15/21). later you can pick up the G15/21 and you'll have pretty much all your basis covered with both (did I mention the lifetime warranty!). another good option is the flex 3401. some people look past customer service and in my book that's just as important as the product itself, I don't want to support and put money into someone's pocket if they don't care about their customers...
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Does the Flex 3401 (Flex company) have good customer service and replacement parts? What's their warranty like for any one that owns one?

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DogRescuer said:
I guess I beleive start slow learn as you go and you're a dive in head first guy and hope you don't hit your head.
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I've got a #### box that I drive (that I don't care about) that has more dings and scrapes than I can count. So I could practice on door panels and stuff. It's a throw away/been through hell and back work vehicle lol.

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