Duragloss Rinseless Wash: Weird Issue

[Hoytman]

Finally getting these photo's up.

I recently bought Duragloss Rinseless Wash at a local paint supply house near me. Only had the product for a couple of weeks before trying it out. When I reached for it this is what I noticed.

I'll let the pictures do the talking.

Then I shook it up really well. See below.

After the bubbles had settled. See below.

Below is what came out of the bottle and was in the bucket.

This is before I used the product to wash my Regal GS. While washing, and when drying, I noticed red pieces like this on the paint, only they were smaller than what is shown here on my finger. See below.

Residue left on the side of the bucket after washing. See below.

More residue on the bucket.

I don't really have any idea what may have caused this, but I had red stuff all over my drying towels.

 

[swanicyouth]

I've had that before. It seems some of the product isn't easily soluble. You have to shake the crap out of it before you pour it in your bucket. Still you may have this issue. Stuff works well though. I stains plastic bottles also.

 

[Hoytman]

You'd be hard pressed to wash a white car with my particular bottle and not leave little red things all over the car. They didn't rinse off so easily. Wish I'd have taken a photo of my drying towels.

I liked using the product except or this issue. Keep in mind, these particals were not inside my bottle when I purchased it. It's easy to notice something as obvious as that.

I can't really say what's going on with it. I just thought I'd post it in case others may run into it as well.

As can be seen by the time stamp the weather shouldn't have been an issue because it was still warm.

 

[MrCleanit]

Same as Swan said. I've used this one before and had the same issue. Shaking it worked for me. And I mean I had to shake it like the Flash!

 

[Hoytman]

I had to shake it like the Flash!

After noticing the issue I did take the time to really, really shake. If I'd have shook it any longer I'd have spent more time shaking than I did washing, no kidding. You can see carpet in the photo where I had sat down to not only shake it longer in order to show what was going on and to take photo's.

This wasn't posted to knock the product, but to show an issue others might come across themselves.

However, if I have to shake a product for 15 minutes, then still fight little red specks all over...then I'm going to look for an easier product to use. Will this happen with another bottle of it? I honestly can't say, nor is it something I'd expect, but I will antisipate it. :xyxthumbs:

 

[wdmaccord]

I wouldn't give up on the DG RW. You either got a bad bottle, or it was left without the cap sealed tight, or went through multiple temp/humidity changes. I get the crusty's around the neck of the bottle on the outside where the cap goes on around leftover drips after pouring. I leave mine in the house year round to minimize temp and humidity swings and never had an issue. How have you stored the product?

 

[glen e]

bad batch..I've used 3 gallons in 2 years, no probs...love the stuff...

 

[Hoytman]

Eery product I own is currently in the house, as is the case when temps fall below 40.

It's very possible that even in October that temps could cause this. I recently had a bottle of Optimum Car wash do a similar thing while out in the garage when temps were hovering in there around 40F. It gel'd up something awful. Brought in the house and it returned to normal. DGRW, which is in the house as well, still has the issues. IDK...perhaps it is a bad batch, or perhaps it's old product. IDK...

 

[blkSRT]

Why not send Duragloss an email and ask?

 

[FUNX650]

Keep in mind, these particals were not inside my bottle when I purchased it. It's easy to notice something as obvious as that.

I can't really say what's going on with it. I just thought I'd post it in case others may run into it as well.

As can be seen by the time stamp the weather shouldn't have been an issue because it was still warm.

That's a strange separation-of-ingredients occurrence after being bought,
and then stored for just a short period of time.

Could be just an uncommon, extrinsic, atypical separation between certain ingredients/chemicals of Aquawax, such as its:
-propyl alcohol
-surfactants
-fragrance(s)
-polyaminodimethylsiloxane (PDMS)

And those ingredients/chemicals of a "standard" rinseless wash, such as:
-surfactants
-frangrances
-other PDMS'

~This all may add up to what has been mentioned: Bad Batch!!~

And:
Unless this bottle underwent a freeze/thaw cycle prior to your purchasing it...
I don't see where your temperature would've played any significant role.
Actual Temp
High 74°...Lo 38°


Thanks for the heads-up!
I'm with you on the having too much: shakin'-it-up!



Bob

 

[Pats300zx]

I had the same issue with my DG Rinseless. I ended up having to use a strainer to filer the crap out.

I didn't even think about shaking it up more.

 

[Hoytman]

Why not send Duragloss an email and ask?

Currently I have no reason to call them and ask, mainly because this is the first time I've ran across this issue with this product, and I've never heard of anyone else having similar issue prior to this thread.

It's also easier to post 'proof' of an issue via photo's, rather than simply describe something via an email, or simply describing it through the written word via a forum like this. Having posted pictures of the issue others can see the problem first hand and have proof an issue exists, then myself or others can contact Duragloss and send them a link to this thread, so they too can view the issue first hand, should we be interested in doing such.

You might say that this thread is the first step in documenting an issue with DGRW. I currently have no plans on contacting DG to make a complaint because it really isn't that big of a deal, nor am I that interested in finding a solution, or getting a refund of any type. In other words, I'm simply not that worried about it...

...I just wanted to share the problem with fellow forum members as a heads-up, but appears others have had the same issue.

If someone else wants to inform Duragloss and send them a link...be my guest. Perhaps they would want to know. My guess is that Duragloss already knows about this...might even have an explanation too.

 

[VISITOR]

it's normal, mine is the same. just shake it well before use and if there's any floating try and pick it out if it bothers you...

 

[Hoytman]

... pick it out if it bothers you...

The product was shaken...very well I might add.

If a detailer told their customers if they didn't like residual hair in their carpets that they should, "pick it out if it bothers you", they wouldn't have a customer very long. I know I wouldn't go back to that detailer. If DG told me, or anyone else, to do the same, my guess is folks wouldn't buy the product.

Please...let's not turn this into a, "Hoytman's bashing Duragloss thread, because I am not. My only intent was to show what was inside 'my' bottle. It doesn't bother me, or I'd quite using it. It's just a little unhandy that's all. No more...no less.

 

[blkSRT]

I don't see anyone bashing you, certainly not me. But I don't see the point in starting a thread when you say it's not a problem and doesn't bother you. That is why I suggested calling or emailing. You would be surprised at what they might tell you. Maybe was a bad batch,maybe it's not a problem,maybe they never heard the issue before etc. It would be much more interesting for me to read their response to you then reading that you feel the need to defend yourself when no one is accusing or attacking you.

 

[VISITOR]

The product was shaken...very well I might add.

If a detailer told their customers if they didn't like residual hair in their carpets that they should, "pick it out if it bothers you", they wouldn't have a customer very long. I know I wouldn't go back to that detailer. If DG told me, or anyone else, to do the same, my guess is folks wouldn't buy the product.

Please...let's not turn this into a, "Hoytman's bashing Duragloss thread, because I am not. My only intent was to show what was inside 'my' bottle. It doesn't bother me, or I'd quite using it. It's just a little unhandy that's all. No more...no less.

to be honest with you, even if you got a new bottle over time when it sits it will eventually do that as it's very concentrated. I noticed that too when I first got mine a long time ago and I have a bottle that is diluted in QD form and it still is like that. I just shake it well before use and use it...

 

[Hoytman]

I don't see anyone bashing you, certainly not me. But I don't see the point in starting a thread when you say it's not a problem and doesn't bother you. That is why I suggested calling or emailing. You would be surprised at what they might tell you. Maybe was a bad batch,maybe it's not a problem,maybe they never heard the issue before etc. It would be much more interesting for me to read their response to you then reading that you feel the need to defend yourself when no one is accusing or attacking you.

I quoted you because you asked a good question and I thought I'd make a general response to an asked question. I wasn't accusing anyone of anything. My point in not wanting this thread to be about me bashing a products was just that, a comment. Just trying not to let things go too far astray.

Trust me...there's no need to try and read between any lines here. It's much less complicated for me to say what I what to say rather than have folks guess. If I wanted to say negative things, then I would, but then again I like to portray the glass as half full...

..."I'm the greatest pitcher in the world." -Optimism

 

[Hoytman]

to be honest with you, even if you got a new bottle over time when it sits it will eventually do that as it's very concentrated. I noticed that too when I first got mine a long time ago and I have a bottle that is diluted in QD form and it still is like that. I just shake it well before use and use it...

Will do!:xyxthumbs:

 

[KillaCam]

That's weird, I have a gallon of the stuff and I never got that problem. Maybe it was in freezing temps or a bad batch.

 

[Bunky]

I have a bottle of Optimum Car Wash that does a similar thing except the slivers are white.

Dr. G called this clouding. In my case, this happens when the soap gets around 45 and clears up a few days being warmer.