Examples,soft paint,hard paint?

[Beerwulf76]

Detailers from you experience please give examples of manufacturers/models with soft vs. hard paint and vise versa.
What is a simple way of determining which your are dealing with?

 

[Nick McKees37]

What is a simple way of determining which your are dealing with?

Do a test spot. :dblthumb2:

The big picture idea is to test out the products, pads and process you're thinking of using over the entire car to just one small section and make sure you can make one small section look GREAT and if you can then you'll have proven your system and this will give you the confidence to duplicate the process over the rest of the car.

Test Spot - The story behind the story...

 

[Setec Astronomy]

There's also some generalizations, GM, Audi, and Volkswagen paints tend to be really hard, and Corvettes are really, really hard. The Asian cars tend to be soft. Remember these are generalizations.

 

[shoeless89]

Pretty much Asian car's are softer, everyone else is harder. I know that very general lol

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Pretty much Asian car's are softer, everyone else is harder. I know that very general lol

That's a pretty good generalization.

I talk about this in my how-to book, basically it states that in order for a person, (you or anyone reading this), to be able to gauge hard paints from soft paints, you need experience working on a lot of paint systems.

A paint systems = A lot of cars


The only way to get experience is to put hours behind the buffer... (or the hand if you're working by hand)



Paperback



:xyxthumbs:

 

[Cosmin]

Detailers from you experience please give examples of manufacturers/models with soft vs. hard paint and vise versa.
What is a simple way of determining which your are dealing with?

only 2 years experience , but this are my results so far:
Porsche - on soft side
ferrari - medium ( except enzo - v. hard)
mercedes - medium
bentley - soft
bmw - on soft side
infiniti - on soft side and weird
nissan gtr - on soft side and weird
older audi - mid-hard
newer audi - on soft side
aston - medium
maserati - medium

the best way is when you claybar the car , that will show if is soft paint will marr quick with less pressure. also a test spot with final polish shows how the clear is. if does 50% correction or more than the paint is on soft side.
:dblthumb2:

 

[alko]

I found this link awhile ago. I'm sure it was in a thread somewhere. Not sure if there are any differences since this was from a UK site:

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/pdfs/painthardness.pdf

 

[Beerwulf76]

That's a pretty good generalization.

I talk about this in my how-to book, basically it states that in order for a person, (you or anyone reading this), to be able to gauge hard paints from soft paints, you need experience working on a lot of paint systems.

A paint systems = A lot of cars


The only way to get experience is to put hours behind the buffer... (or the hand if you're working by hand)



Paperback



:xyxthumbs:

Thank You for chimming in Mr. Phillips! A copy of that book will definitely be in my possession in the future!I have read several of your articles,what a great resource they are,you do a great service to detailing and enthusiast community by providing them.

 

[Beerwulf76]

only 2 years experience , but this are my results so far:
Porsche - on soft side
ferrari - medium ( except enzo - v. hard)
mercedes - medium
bentley - soft
bmw - on soft side
infiniti - on soft side and weird
nissan gtr - on soft side and weird
older audi - mid-hard
newer audi - on soft side
aston - medium
maserati - medium

the best way is when you claybar the car , that will show if is soft paint will marr quick with less pressure. also a test spot with final polish shows how the clear is. if does 50% correction or more than the paint is on soft side.
:dblthumb2:

Thank you sir. Wow you get to work with some really awesome cars!
Great clay bar tip,would have not thought of that.
:thankyousign:

 

[alko]

LMAO I just saw the "soft and weird" thats funny

 

[embolism]

soft and weird

that's what she said...

 

[Rix6]

LMAO I just saw the "soft and weird" thats funny

My G37 has soft and weird paint!

 

[370guy]

Nissan and Infiniti are about the thinnest factory paint out there. Detailer be warned haha

 

[RhetoricMixes]

i can vouch for Infiniti paint being very weird to work with. I think it might be on the soft side since ultimate polish took out around 70% of swirls on my 2010 g37. Also chrysler/dodge uses hard paint systems

 

[ShineTimeDetail]

I think higher end cars you can say these have hard these have soft...when you get to normal cars its much harder bc you have so many different plants etc...I did w dodge the other day and megs on a orange pad took a good 60% defects out ... Everyone says 2011 mustangs have soft clear...not the ones I've done.