LegacyGT
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Love ... it is what makes a Subaru a Subaru.
Subaru owners, myself included, are an interesting breed; we are intensely loyal to our cars and fellow owners, and we carry a certian amount of pride that comes from owning a rally bread AWD vehicle. We get giddy with excitement when it snows, when the pavement gets twisty or ends all together, and a wide open 360' on ramp becomes one of life's great pleasures. DRIFT! We laugh at SUV owners that get stuck, but we also pull them out. We loath getting rental cars, and are relieved to get back into our own vehicles after a trip. We are unique.
I have recently been more involved with the Local Iowa Subaru Owners Club, resulting in been introduced to a lot of really great people, and amazing cars. The ability to tune more power out of the flat four boxer engine is simply staggering, and our local club includes everyone from bone stock to highly tuned stage 3 fire breathing monsters.
Scott is a really outstanding guy I met through the club and he puts a lot of his own time into the club, and is always available to help out a fellow member with a tear down or install. I had some new products that I wanted to try, and it only seemed natural that with the opportunity to give something back for all of his hard work that he would be a natural choice. He let me know up front that he had lived on a gravel road for several years, and was the second owner of the car, so it needed some work. He had been just about at the point of trying to find someone to polish it out, so it ended up being perfect timing
I first checked out Scott's Legacy GT Wagon (which is now quite rare an no longer produced; from what I understand, it is the only one in the state) while racing at an SCCA event. I got a couple of rides from Scott as he was helping me to learn the track configuration, and when my head was not embedded into the back of the head rest accelerating down the straights, my eyes were being ripped out of their sockets under the savage braking power. I am not able to remember all of the specifics, but the wagon is a full Stage 3 tune, front & rear sways, new bushings, new inter cooler, up/down pipe, coil-overs, lowering springs. All this resulted in my being tossed around like a rag doll around the track ...
Ignore that this has my car's info on the reports.
The car upon arrival -
We got started at 7:30am as we had a long day ahead of us. The car had recently participated in a rally, and had a bunch of vinyl that had been removed the night before, along with a Dawn wash from the owner. There were plenty of water spots, but that was not a big deal considering what we had in store for the car.
Our weird October weather - it has been so warm lately we still have a lot of bugs out
The Process:
I got started on the car by attacking the wheels, again the woolies were a pleasure to use and absolutely no splatter. My Daytona brushes are now only used in a few niche places. The paint was then treated with Griots Paint Prep, then Iron-X after which the paint was very well stripped.
Clean Wheels
I was a bit apprehensive having Scott help out while I did the detail, but he had a real desire to learn some tricks and a desire to keep his car in good shape when we were done; however, it turned out to be a really great arrangement. He was a huge help and picked things up very quickly. In the end he helped save me a lot of time, and got some ownership of the results to be very proud of. I would not co-detail a car with many people, however, Scott would be one of them.
After the paint was cleansed, I tested out the Ultima Elastrofoam system. This is a unique system that can be used in place of clay. I had been very interested to try it out since buying a bogo pack from AGO a few weeks ago, and this was a perfect opportunity. I started off on the glass to break in the foam block, and had a bucket of warm water to rinse the block with frequently. The car was cleansed while still wet, but also using the included lube. The Elastrofoam did a good job, but I was somewhat shocked at how aggressive it was on the paint. I had several sections of orange peal that looked like I had been doing a 3000 grit wet sand which is way more aggressive than I was expecting from the system. I am not going to say I was using it perfectly, but I don't think I was too far off. I will have to use this system again on different paint to make a conclusion as there has been very positive feedback from Keith on the system.
Condition of the paint ... what are we working with?
You can see how the Elastrofoam literally sanded the orange peel here:
If you are doing a rally, a tip learned here ... the adhesive in electrical tape (used for car numbering) will etch the paint.
Drivers door:
The car certainly proved to be a worthy candidate for a dramatic correction. Being is this is a daily driver, as we setup our test spot we decided to try for a 90-95% correction. This early decision turned out to be a good thing, as I found myself wanting to chase down some really deep rids as we were working on the car which would have required removing quite a bit of clear to get out. I found it is really easy to get caught up chasing perfection, so it was good to set our expectations at the beginning.
The test spot:
Ta Da!
Yes, I think this will do quite nicely:
Our winning combination in the pictures above was Menzerna SIP w/ Flex PE14 on HT Cyan. In the pictures above those results are after only SIP on Cyan (and Eraser wipedown) .... Menzerna can be dusty, but those results are amazing. Now that we had a process, we cranked up some Pandora, and kicked it into high gear.
Scott was looking kind of board when I got done polishing out the hood, so I asked if he wanted to step up and learn on the DA. Unbeknownst to me, Scott had a lot of sanding experience, so I was pretty shocked at how quickly he picked up the 3401 with no control issues. A few minutes on section passes, pressure, arm speed and polish break down and he was employed to follow up my compounding with PO85RD on an HT Tangerine pad to really amp up the gloss of the paint.
One nice 'feature' on this wagon is the double moon roof ... that saved some time, as it cut down the roof area by about 40% :woo:
We got just over half way through the car when it was time for a lunch break. I was dragging a bit after having to go down to the 4'' pad to work on the tailgate / hatch and my wonderful wife delivered us some food from a local Panera. After a half hour we were back at it, and as I came around the drivers side of the car I needed to switch to a new pad, so I did another 50/50 to make sure things were still on track:
Subaru owners, myself included, are an interesting breed; we are intensely loyal to our cars and fellow owners, and we carry a certian amount of pride that comes from owning a rally bread AWD vehicle. We get giddy with excitement when it snows, when the pavement gets twisty or ends all together, and a wide open 360' on ramp becomes one of life's great pleasures. DRIFT! We laugh at SUV owners that get stuck, but we also pull them out. We loath getting rental cars, and are relieved to get back into our own vehicles after a trip. We are unique.
I have recently been more involved with the Local Iowa Subaru Owners Club, resulting in been introduced to a lot of really great people, and amazing cars. The ability to tune more power out of the flat four boxer engine is simply staggering, and our local club includes everyone from bone stock to highly tuned stage 3 fire breathing monsters.
Scott is a really outstanding guy I met through the club and he puts a lot of his own time into the club, and is always available to help out a fellow member with a tear down or install. I had some new products that I wanted to try, and it only seemed natural that with the opportunity to give something back for all of his hard work that he would be a natural choice. He let me know up front that he had lived on a gravel road for several years, and was the second owner of the car, so it needed some work. He had been just about at the point of trying to find someone to polish it out, so it ended up being perfect timing
I first checked out Scott's Legacy GT Wagon (which is now quite rare an no longer produced; from what I understand, it is the only one in the state) while racing at an SCCA event. I got a couple of rides from Scott as he was helping me to learn the track configuration, and when my head was not embedded into the back of the head rest accelerating down the straights, my eyes were being ripped out of their sockets under the savage braking power. I am not able to remember all of the specifics, but the wagon is a full Stage 3 tune, front & rear sways, new bushings, new inter cooler, up/down pipe, coil-overs, lowering springs. All this resulted in my being tossed around like a rag doll around the track ...
Ignore that this has my car's info on the reports.
The car upon arrival -
We got started at 7:30am as we had a long day ahead of us. The car had recently participated in a rally, and had a bunch of vinyl that had been removed the night before, along with a Dawn wash from the owner. There were plenty of water spots, but that was not a big deal considering what we had in store for the car.
Our weird October weather - it has been so warm lately we still have a lot of bugs out
The Process:
I got started on the car by attacking the wheels, again the woolies were a pleasure to use and absolutely no splatter. My Daytona brushes are now only used in a few niche places. The paint was then treated with Griots Paint Prep, then Iron-X after which the paint was very well stripped.
Clean Wheels
I was a bit apprehensive having Scott help out while I did the detail, but he had a real desire to learn some tricks and a desire to keep his car in good shape when we were done; however, it turned out to be a really great arrangement. He was a huge help and picked things up very quickly. In the end he helped save me a lot of time, and got some ownership of the results to be very proud of. I would not co-detail a car with many people, however, Scott would be one of them.
After the paint was cleansed, I tested out the Ultima Elastrofoam system. This is a unique system that can be used in place of clay. I had been very interested to try it out since buying a bogo pack from AGO a few weeks ago, and this was a perfect opportunity. I started off on the glass to break in the foam block, and had a bucket of warm water to rinse the block with frequently. The car was cleansed while still wet, but also using the included lube. The Elastrofoam did a good job, but I was somewhat shocked at how aggressive it was on the paint. I had several sections of orange peal that looked like I had been doing a 3000 grit wet sand which is way more aggressive than I was expecting from the system. I am not going to say I was using it perfectly, but I don't think I was too far off. I will have to use this system again on different paint to make a conclusion as there has been very positive feedback from Keith on the system.
Condition of the paint ... what are we working with?
You can see how the Elastrofoam literally sanded the orange peel here:
If you are doing a rally, a tip learned here ... the adhesive in electrical tape (used for car numbering) will etch the paint.
Drivers door:
The car certainly proved to be a worthy candidate for a dramatic correction. Being is this is a daily driver, as we setup our test spot we decided to try for a 90-95% correction. This early decision turned out to be a good thing, as I found myself wanting to chase down some really deep rids as we were working on the car which would have required removing quite a bit of clear to get out. I found it is really easy to get caught up chasing perfection, so it was good to set our expectations at the beginning.
The test spot:
Ta Da!
Yes, I think this will do quite nicely:
Our winning combination in the pictures above was Menzerna SIP w/ Flex PE14 on HT Cyan. In the pictures above those results are after only SIP on Cyan (and Eraser wipedown) .... Menzerna can be dusty, but those results are amazing. Now that we had a process, we cranked up some Pandora, and kicked it into high gear.
Scott was looking kind of board when I got done polishing out the hood, so I asked if he wanted to step up and learn on the DA. Unbeknownst to me, Scott had a lot of sanding experience, so I was pretty shocked at how quickly he picked up the 3401 with no control issues. A few minutes on section passes, pressure, arm speed and polish break down and he was employed to follow up my compounding with PO85RD on an HT Tangerine pad to really amp up the gloss of the paint.
One nice 'feature' on this wagon is the double moon roof ... that saved some time, as it cut down the roof area by about 40% :woo:
We got just over half way through the car when it was time for a lunch break. I was dragging a bit after having to go down to the 4'' pad to work on the tailgate / hatch and my wonderful wife delivered us some food from a local Panera. After a half hour we were back at it, and as I came around the drivers side of the car I needed to switch to a new pad, so I did another 50/50 to make sure things were still on track:
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