Ferrari Purosangue options cost...WTF!

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Yes I know it's a Ferrari, so it's a premium sports car, it's never cheap! I heard Porsche charges for glass that you can see through and round tires so it rolls better but watch this video and check out what options cost, it's covered early in the video as well as towards the end of the video where Harry covers his LIKES and DISLIKES

There's a 2 year waiting list in the U.K. and base price there is 313K British

Let's have a chat about this and btw, Harry's Garage is in my Top 5 automotive YouTube channels️

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I like it, but it wouldn't be my new lottery car. And it's not the cost of the options, it's the annoying things he picked out in his review, I would definitely find those things frustrating. Also the design looks like a pain to detail, and the funny thing is, and it might be just that colour, it doesn't look like a Ferrari, maybe it's too much like lots of other "sporty" SUVs out there. It does look good though, much better than the Aston Martin DBX, and it sounds awesome, that V12 is glorious.

Edited to add, I like his reviews too, but for some reason I hadn't subscribed, but I've fixed that now. I also like Driving Sports TV, he reviews lots of stuff, but I like the off road tests especially.
 
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Big Dave said:
I like it, but it wouldn't be my new lottery car. And it's not the cost of the options, it's the annoying things he picked out in his review, I would definitely find those things frustrating. Also the design looks like a pain to detail, and the funny thing is, and it might be just that colour, it doesn't look like a Ferrari, maybe it's too much like lots of other "sporty" SUVs out there. It does look good though, much better than the Aston Martin DBX, and it sounds awesome, that V12 is glorious.

Edited to add, I like his reviews too, but for some reason I hadn't subscribed, but I've fixed that now. I also like Driving Sports TV, he reviews lots of stuff, but I like the off road tests especially.
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You don't like the DBX Dave? Have you seen one inperson...in green

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I started to lose interest in Ferrari a few years ago when I learned Ferrari won't sell you a Ferrari unless you already own one already; i.e. they are essentially a closed club. Porsche, Lambo or Aston will sell to anyone with money in hand. Their designs are stunning and I don't doubt their performance, but the brand snobbery at the corporate level means they are no longer on my wish list.

I like the design. It isn't a bloated blob like SUV's by any brand and it's way better looking than the Urus. The FF is still one of my favorite Ferrari's, but I know it's probably one of Ferrari's least popular designs. I'm a sucker for shooting brakes and station wagons.

The option list isn't surprising. In Europe in general since everyone orders their cars rather than buying what's in inventory on the lot, every car maker offers a pretty extensive option list and you can pick and choose exactly what you want. Translate that to an automaker like Porsche, Ferrari, Aston, ect and the costs go up proportionally. They will give you anything you want...for a price. Also factor in small production numbers which drive manufacturing costs of specialty options that may only be made for a few dozen cars...or less. I was reading an comparison of the new 911 Turbo and the Aston Martin Vantage in Road and Track and the Aston they were given had something like almost $100K in options. When you're buying cars at the level of a Ferrari, the economics are totally different and buyers don't even blink at those prices if they really want a particular option from an extensive accessory catalog.
 
Desertnate said:
I started to lose interest in Ferrari a few years ago when I learned Ferrari won't sell you a Ferrari unless you already own one already; i.e. they are essentially a closed club. Porsche, Lambo or Aston will sell to anyone with money in hand. Their designs are stunning and I don't doubt their performance, but the brand snobbery at the corporate level means they are no longer on my wish list.

I like the design. It isn't a bloated blob like SUV's by any brand and it's way better looking than the Urus. The FF is still one of my favorite Ferrari's, but I know it's probably one of Ferrari's least popular designs. I'm a sucker for shooting brakes and station wagons.

The option list isn't surprising. In Europe in general since everyone orders their cars rather than buying what's in inventory on the lot, every car maker offers a pretty extensive option list and you can pick and choose exactly what you want. Translate that to an automaker like Porsche, Ferrari, Aston, ect and the costs go up proportionally. They will give you anything you want...for a price. Also factor in small production numbers which drive manufacturing costs of specialty options that may only be made for a few dozen cars...or less. I was reading an comparison of the new 911 Turbo and the Aston Martin Vantage in Road and Track and the Aston they were given had something like almost $100K in options. When you're buying cars at the level of a Ferrari, the economics are totally different and buyers don't even blink at those prices if they really want a particular option from an extensive accessory catalog.
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Big Dave said:
Toyota Crown Sport with a body kit by Aero Over, I wonder where they got their inspiration? I'll bet it doesn't have a V12 though.

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Wait...WE get that, holy sh!t does that look amazing For the price of the optional cf kit for that Ferrari you could buy the entire Crown Insignia, the body kit and a nice set of rims

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Sadly, the Crown Sport will likely never see US soil. We never seem to get any of the good, sporty stuff.
 
Desertnate said:
Sadly, the Crown Sport will likely never see US soil. We never seem to get any of the good, sporty stuff.
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We get the Crown Signia, it's the wagon

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You know it's funny what people consider to be the " in vogue " vehicles. Twenty years ago in someone suggested that an SUV was a valid performance vehicle that would have been laughed at.
Don't even know if it exists anymore but when NASCAR came out with the truck series I thought what an ignorant event. A pickup truck is a utility vehicle. Never was intended to go fast or corner well.
Personally I still don't consider SUVs to be performance vehicles or think pick up trucks make a good race vehicle.
 
BLM said:
You know it's funny what people consider to be the " in vogue " vehicles. Twenty years ago in someone suggested that an SUV was a valid performance vehicle that would have been laughed at.
Don't even know if it exists anymore but when NASCAR came out with the truck series I thought what an ignorant event. A pickup truck is a utility vehicle. Never was intended to go fast or corner well.
Personally I still don't consider SUVs to be performance vehicles or think pick up trucks make a good race vehicle.
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BLM said:
You know it's funny what people consider to be the " in vogue " vehicles. Twenty years ago in someone suggested that an SUV was a valid performance vehicle that would have been laughed at.
Don't even know if it exists anymore but when NASCAR came out with the truck series I thought what an ignorant event. A pickup truck is a utility vehicle. Never was intended to go fast or corner well.
Personally I still don't consider SUVs to be performance vehicles or think pick up trucks make a good race vehicle.
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The NASCAR truck series still exists and is a feeder to the top levels of NASCAR. In reality they are no more a "truck" than the NASCAR "cars". They are all tube frame vehicles with a fiberglass skin.

I too used to think there could be no way a SUV could deliver performance until I experienced the following:
- At an HPDE with my GTI, I got walked by one of the original Jeep TrackHawks and couldn't even catch it in the corners
- Drove a BMW X3M at a promotional event. That thing was faster and had more grip than any sane SUV should posses
- At SpeedVegas road course, they do a recon lap in a Cayenne GTS. Holy cow it was fast on a fairly technical road course

Car and Driver has run a number of SUV's at their lightening lap. The Lambo Urus seems to be the king with shockingly fast times around VIR. It has beaten cars like the CTS-V, AMG C63S, Alfa Giulia Quadrifolgio, and in 2019 it was only 0.8 seconds slower than an M5 Competition. In 2019 it was the 7th fastest vehicle of any type in the competition that year.

I don't think of them as performance vehicles either from a driving perspective. The center of gravity is just way too high, they are way to heavy, and the overall size except for maybe a Macan or Stelvio are way too big. However, I can't deny there are lots of people building SUV's which are seriously fast and have performance abilities which are way better than some very competent cars.
 
Desertnate said:
The NASCAR truck series still exists and is a feeder to the top levels of NASCAR. In reality they are no more a "truck" than the NASCAR "cars". They are all tube frame vehicles with a fiberglass skin.

I too used to think there could be no way a SUV could deliver performance until I experienced the following:
- At an HPDE with my GTI, I got walked by one of the original Jeep TrackHawks and couldn't even catch it in the corners
- Drove a BMW X3M at a promotional event. That thing was faster and had more grip than any sane SUV should posses
- At SpeedVegas road course, they do a recon lap in a Cayenne GTS. Holy cow it was fast on a fairly technical road course

Car and Driver has run a number of SUV's at their lightening lap. The Lambo Urus seems to be the king with shockingly fast times around VIR. It has beaten cars like the CTS-V, AMG C63S, Alfa Giulia Quadrifolgio, and in 2019 it was only 0.8 seconds slower than an M5 Competition. In 2019 it was the 7th fastest vehicle of any type in the competition that year.

I don't think of them as performance vehicles either from a driving perspective. The center of gravity is just way too high, they are way to heavy, and the overall size except for maybe a Macan or Stelvio are way too big. However, I can't deny there are lots of people building SUV's which are seriously fast and have performance abilities which are way better than some very competent cars.
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BLM said:
You know it's funny what people consider to be the " in vogue " vehicles. Twenty years ago in someone suggested that an SUV was a valid performance vehicle that would have been laughed at.
Don't even know if it exists anymore but when NASCAR came out with the truck series I thought what an ignorant event. A pickup truck is a utility vehicle. Never was intended to go fast or corner well.
Personally I still don't consider SUVs to be performance vehicles or think pick up trucks make a good race vehicle.
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Im not saying that an SUV cannot be a perfomance vehicle. Any vehicle can be a performance vehicle. I could take a 59 cadillac and with enough power and some drivetrain/suspension modifications make it one hell of a drag car.
What i am suggesting is the type of vehicle they are making into performance vehicles. The SUV is by far the most popular vehicle type sold today. By it nature it makes a lesser performance vehicle than a low to the ground, two seat coupe with a aerodynamic shape.
Also the NASCAR trucks share nothing with real life trucks but i found it odd to suggest a pickup truck was considered a race vehicle.
Its about sales, sales and more sales.
 
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BLM said:
What i am siggesting is the type of vehicle they are making into performance vehicles. The SUV is by far the most popular vehicle type sold today. By it nature it makes a lesser performance vehicle than a low to the ground, two seat coupe with a aerodynamic shape.
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In some ways I agree. But like Klasse mentioned with some crazy engineering and lots of electronics, there are SUV's being built today that are faster in the straight line and the curves than many low, aerodynamic, sexy, two-seater sport coupes on the road...a lot faster...

Would I want to drive one? Nope. Not my cup of tea. However, I also realize one of those monsters in the right hands will leave me for dead in anything I can afford to drive.
 
Yeah I don't like it as mfgs are moving away from cars, regular, fun to drive cars, let alone sports cars/muscle cars. I mean $50K for a Mustang ecoboost w/performance pack! Not because it's a 4 pot turbo but the price. Back in 2005 I spec'd out a GT and it was $27K, yeah 20 years ago for sure but $23K more, almost double, crazy!

The Ferrari in that video I posted is $500K in our money, no F'n way in hell

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