Four Star UPP and DP MaxWax

[rohnramirez]

Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection
Four Star Ultimate Paint Protection, Four Star UPP, paint sealant

Okay, so i didn't really get to EXTENSIVELY test its durability cause i couldn't wait any longer to remove the caked on dust the last time i applied a coat of it (Yeah i should've covered it while it was curing) around 6 weeks ago. It's kind of dusty in the garage lately, because of a building construction beside the parking lot.

Just this weekend, i just wanted a smooth and slick feel to my paint again (besides being bored), so i grabbed some dishwashing liquid to remove the UPP and DPMW. I used probably 4ounces with a gallon of water. To my amazement, the UPP was still holding up even after the wash, which means it was resisting a grease-remover (imagine the concentration of dishwashing liquid i used).

After a 2step on my hood, and 205 on the rest of the panels. I gave it an IPA wipedown, then a coat of UPP. An hour after, wife wanted to have dinner to celebrate mother's day, so i was forced to drive it with a fresh coat. Gave it another wipe with the plush side of an MF when i got home. The next morning, approximately 14hours after applying, some dust has settled again, but this time, still very slick to the touch and the dust just glided off as i was wiping. No caking. This lead me to believe, that UPP is at its best when applied to a clean surface (no polishing oils or glazes).

Pros:
Leaves a slick and smooth finish
Very very glossy (mirror-like)
Awesome protection (resists even a degreaser)
Continuously beaded and sheeted water over the 6-week period (maintained with QD after each weekly wash)

Cons:
Consistency is too thin for my taste
Dust cakes up on the layer if applied incorrectly

Realizations:
It is best to apply with a foam applicator (over a finishing pad on a machine)
Chemically reacts/bonds better with a clean finish (After an wax cleaner or an IPA); if you apply it without removing the oil left by the polish, and add dust to the equation - you'll be disappointed.



DP Max Wax & Final Gloss Quick Detailer
DP Max Wax Combo

I have been extremely satisfied with this wax!!! Has a sweet scent! This thing is very easy to apply and remove. Last time i tried it, i did WOWO method, it still did its thing. But yesterday, after checking on the UPP, i applied a coat of DPMW then moved it under the sun. I just wanted to test how it would react to 42 degrees celsius under the manila sun. An hour after, i took it to a shade and started removing the haze. Guess what...DPMW was as easy to remove hazed under the sun as the WOWO method! I immediately saw a large difference in the look: from mirror-like gloss of UPP to a watery wet-look shine!!!

Since i still had some left over wax on the applicator, and i was thinking of where i should apply it, the chrome wheels came to my attention. Just out of curiosity, i wanted to see how it would look like. I tried other waxes before, the 3m perfect it, zymol, Tw, etc on chrome, although it protected it, it kind of lessened the shine. I also let it scorch under the sun. When i removed it, bam, chrome wheels were very shiny!!! I just love this wax!!!

Pros:
Kicks the shine up a couple of notches!!! It's just hard to describe
Very versatile, works wonders even on chrome
Smells nice
Easy to apply and remove

Cons:
Price went up, which is not exactly cheap anymore (hahaha AG..peace)
DPQD that comes with it isn't really amazing as MW (but is cheap, it's just $5 if you get the combo)


NOTE: Sorry no pics - i still don't have a camera!

 

[ScottB]

UPP is a paint sealant by design and should indeed be applied to a clean surface. While I have noticed no issue applying directly after Menzerna 085rd, a simple wipe down with alcohol or quick rewash after polishing will likely reward in longer durability.

I dont personally find dishwashing liquid is desired in car care. There is no substantial proof it removes all of a wax and can assure you in most cases it doesnt remove all of a sealant. A paint cleansing lotion or polishing is best advice to remove a well cured paint sealant.

 

[rohnramirez]

UPP is a paint sealant by design and should indeed be applied to a clean surface. While I have noticed no issue applying directly after Menzerna 085rd, a simple wipe down with alcohol or quick rewash after polishing will likely reward in longer durability.

Yes, that's what i have realized with UPP. Environment and climate sir might be the differences why you have not encountered the same issue i have with my first application.

I dont personally find dishwashing liquid is desired in car care. There is no substantial proof it removes all of a wax and can assure you in most cases it doesnt remove all of a sealant. A paint cleansing lotion or polishing is best advice to remove a well cured paint sealant.

To better establish my point - your country has better, well-defined and well-executed laws and governing bodies that control and oversee certain industries, such as but not limited to, chemicals, areosols, paint, emissions, etc. For example, in some of your states, it is now illegal to use solvent based paint instead are required to now use water-based paint, here, we have an abundance of it. My point being the chemical contents of our local products are not identical. I have been using the same dishwashing liquid for years, believe it or not, it loosens breakdust on wheels even. I, on the otherhand, can pretty assure you that in most cases it does remove sealants and waxes. You get that squeaky clean sound after a wash.

And yes, i did run 205 on the finish then an IPA prior to UPP and DP. Thanks for the comment and for reading killr. :xyxthumbs: