G15 or G21 on large SUV?

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Hi everyone,

Please help this newbie out. I currently have a G9, I use it to care for a GX460 & a Prius. The Prius doesn't take long but boy the GX460 took a long time. We also just acquired a new Navigator and it is a lot bigger than the GX460, I can't imagine how long it would take to polish the Navi when the GX460 already took a long time with the G9. I will buy a G8 and either a G15 or G21. What do you guys suggest I should get? I know the G21 has a longer throw that makes it quicker than a G15 but from what I've read ppl say it isn't as good as the last gen G21. I'd like to stick to Griots polishers since I already have a lot of BOSS 5" pads. TIA everyone for your inputs.
 
If you have alot of big flat panel i would go with the 21 and hit the curves with the 8 or 9.

I have the old g15 and still took some time on a small SUV.

I’ve read the same on the old vs new BOSS polishers but with the huge price drop I kinda expected some quality difference..


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Coatingsarecrack said:
If you have alot of big flat panel i would go with the 21 and hit the curves with the 8 or 9.

I have the old g15 and still took some time on a small SUV.

I’ve read the same on the old vs new BOSS polishers but with the huge price drop I kinda expected some quality difference..


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How long do you think is the proper amount of time it would take to do a 1 step on a big SUV like the Navigator, excluding clay & wash?
 
tt061880 said:
How long do you think is the proper amount of time it would take to do a 1 step on a big SUV like the Navigator, excluding clay & wash?
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A lot of things to factor here.

*What is the condition of the paint? (i.e is it hammered? Like new?)

*What color is the vehicle? (Black? Light-colored or metallic?)

*What are your expectations when done? (90% correction? Show car quality?)
 
tt061880 said:
How long do you think is the proper amount of time it would take to do a 1 step on a big SUV like the Navigator, excluding clay & wash?
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Haven’t done something that big but a small SUV takes me 3-4 hours with a one step.


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PaulMys said:
A lot of things to factor here.

*What is the condition of the paint? (i.e is it hammered? Like new?)

*What color is the vehicle? (Black? Light-colored or metallic?)

*What are your expectations when done? (90% correction? Show car quality?)
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The Navi is new, paint just have light scratches from the dealer running through the carwash which I forgot to tell them not to. It is black, and 90% correction is more than enough for me. I don't know if Lincoln paint is soft or hard but from the look it has metallic in it.
 
Coatingsarecrack said:
Haven’t done something that big but a small SUV takes me 3-4 hours with a one step.


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It takes me a whole day to do my GX460. I find that the pad stall a lot of time, I guess I didn't do it right. I just looked at my Navi earlier, despite it looking so big, it actually has a lot of curves. Maybe the G15 is good enough since the G21 stall easier?
 
Yeah. I was surprised at just how many little curves/angles my wife’s ‘14 Navigator L has when I first corrected it.
 
I’m getting ready to pull the trigger on a new G21, I’ve got the Gen 1 G21 and Gen 2 G15. IMO the G15 will be better all around for you with your current and future stable of cars. Only reason I’m getting the newer G21 is to speed up customer cars with big sections, and the interchangeable cords make that a breeze.

HI NICK!!
 
2wookies said:
I’m getting ready to pull the trigger on a new G21, I’ve got the Gen 1 G21 and Gen 2 G15. IMO the G15 will be better all around for you with your current and future stable of cars. Only reason I’m getting the newer G21 is to speed up customer cars with big sections, and the interchangeable cords make that a breeze.

HI NICK!!
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How much time do you save on average by using the G21 vs G15? I leaning toward the G15 since it already come with the 5 backing plate but I don't mind spend extra to get the G21 and swap out the backing plate if it save time. Also, after using either G15/21 with say GG correction cream or fast correction cream, do I need to follow up with anything or they can finish really well themselves? I've only used the the correction cream with the the BOSS orange pads with the G8 and they finish really well for a 1 step.
 
For the G8, I'm going to get both the 2 & 3" pads. With those small pads, do you guys prefer the the thicker pads or the thin BOSS ones? And why?
 
tt061880 said:
How much time do you save on average by using the G21 vs G15? I leaning toward the G15 since it already come with the 5 backing plate but I don't mind spend extra to get the G21 and swap out the backing plate if it save time. Also, after using either G15/21 with say GG correction cream or fast correction cream, do I need to follow up with anything or they can finish really well themselves? I've only used the the correction cream with the the BOSS orange pads with the G8 and they finish really well for a 1 step.
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If you're trying to get done sooner AND you have a smaller polisher, why would you get a 5" pad? I'd recommend the 6" pad so you can get done sooner and be ready to use that 3" pad for any curves or tighter areas.

Or go with a Flex forced rotation and you can run 5 or 6" without any slow down. I love my XCE 125 cordless beast (CBeast) and can't imagine switching to a 21 mm polisher. Then again, I have never used a 21 mm polisher so take mine with a grain of salt. But I have no desire or need to use anything else than the Flex forced rotation. I do have the Flex XFE 15 but rarely use it as the Flex CBeast or Pixie does everything I need.
 
tt061880 said:
How much time do you save on average by using the G21 vs G15? I leaning toward the G15 since it already come with the 5 backing plate but I don't mind spend extra to get the G21 and swap out the backing plate if it save time. Also, after using either G15/21 with say GG correction cream or fast correction cream, do I need to follow up with anything or they can finish really well themselves? I've only used the the correction cream with the the BOSS orange pads with the G8 and they finish really well for a 1 step.
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Really all depends on vehicle; when I did a lot of cargo vans the G21 swinging the 6" plate was a nice time savings. Not in the order of "It took half the time" but maybe a 15% savings. Tried a 5" plate on the 21 and didn't much like it or see the advantage; would just use the LHR15 if i needed the 5" pad.

Used a Flex 3401 w 6" plate on those vehicles for a while, can jamb that thing anywhere and still be effective so that was nice but a rough ride, no fun.

If you're looking to cut time, applying polish to panel, series of pea sized drops in a nice pattern, saves a ton of time. Polish moving area to area, wipe off a panel at a time. Lotsa wasted time lifting polisher, grabbing bottle, apply to pad, back to panel. Takes a bit to figure out how to pick up the polish from panel without making a mess but once ya get it down, smooth, quick sailing.
 
I wouldn’t look at it from the saving time area for personal vehicles. I only want the bigger pad as I do customer cars and on trucks and things like that I can one step quicker with the 6”. The 5” will be perfect for you and you can fix swirls and such better with a 5” over a 6”, if you’re really trying to speed just get a rotary lol.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
If you're looking to cut time, applying polish to panel, series of pea sized drops in a nice pattern, saves a ton of time. Polish moving area to area, wipe off a panel at a time. Lotsa wasted time lifting polisher, grabbing bottle, apply to pad, back to panel. Takes a bit to figure out how to pick up the polish from panel without making a mess but once ya get it down, smooth, quick sailing.
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This is such a great advice, very efficient. Okay guys, it's decided, I will order the FLEX XCE 10-8 125 Corded. It won't stall along the curve and also speedy. I won't have to switch back and forth between the G9 & the G21/15, the G8 will cover the small spots. The G9 can be retired. Thank you everyone for you inputs.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
Really all depends on vehicle; when I did a lot of cargo vans the G21 swinging the 6" plate was a nice time savings. Not in the order of "It took half the time" but maybe a 15% savings. Tried a 5" plate on the 21 and didn't much like it or see the advantage; would just use the LHR15 if i needed the 5" pad.

Used a Flex 3401 w 6" plate on those vehicles for a while, can jamb that thing anywhere and still be effective so that was nice but a rough ride, no fun.

If you're looking to cut time, applying polish to panel, series of pea sized drops in a nice pattern, saves a ton of time. Polish moving area to area, wipe off a panel at a time. Lotsa wasted time lifting polisher, grabbing bottle, apply to pad, back to panel. Takes a bit to figure out how to pick up the polish from panel without making a mess but once ya get it down, smooth, quick sailing.
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Know of any videos ahowing this procedure?


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Cleared. Question for all…. How many message before your box is full. I can have like 6 and that’s it.

This is through TapaTalk


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Maybe it's size of messages/mailbox? I have 26 Inbox, 62 Sent, none with pics and it seems OK.
 
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