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Been in business for 4 years, developed a stellar reputation with the people that know us, BUT, I have been told by many people that we cold call they had no idea we existed.

My site comes up as #1 for the town we are in, and in the top 10 for surrounding cities.
Tried adwords and at $500/month we got zero response, so I killed it. One of the problems living in an area that has a high cost per click competition.

We are working the car show/car club circuit, with some very minor success.
But getting the name out in front of people has been frustrating at best.

I also realize time in business is a big factor, and our business has been increasing but out here in CA where the days are 70 degrees and sunny, business has been spotty. We are competitively priced with our competition

How did you go about getting your shop/mobile unit known?
Thanks
 
Sub'd also. This was my first year in business and I'm worried about what will happen if the "word of mouth" clientele dries up. I've also heard terrible reviews of adwords so hopefully someone can chime in.

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I've been full time for over 2 years now and I will say that most my business is word of mouth. Most my customers tell I'm the only detailer in my area that has no negative reviews. I simply do the best job possible and make sure everything is done right the first time. In the 6 years I've been detailing I have never had an unhappy customer and Plan on keeping that way.
 
I dont exactly own a large business like you do, however I did some cars and then others wanted their own done. While it was not alot of people, I think you need to detail a car and then show it some how. People then see the work you do. Does your area have a place that people frequent such as restaurants, bars, beach, etc. Maybe offer a special with a California setting in mind.
 
Great thread topic!

1. Why are you priced comparatively to your competition? That just tells people that price shop that you do similar work. My prices are disgusting low compared to a lot of people on this board, but believe it or not I'm a lot higher than ANYONE else in my market. Don't sit in the muddy middle, be either the top and worth the price of the top, or the bottom with quality to show for it.

2. What do you offer beyond interior/exterior that makes you different? Uniqueness = attention+money. People will see that you offer things different than anyone else does such as coatings, odor removal, paint correction(very small clientele here), ect. and it really does set you apart. Not to mention it is the key to the UPSELL. A key profit margin increasing tool for any business.

3. No offense, but the problem is not usually Google Adwords, it is the person running it. They are obviously going to your site if you are getting clicks, but they are clicking away because of price/how your website looks/what you offer. When someone clicks your site within 30 seconds they need to be able to find your contact number, rough price for their type of vehicle, and pictures of your work. Your web site needs to say you are the one, and the only one to go to.

4. Do you have an active facebook page? I don't update mine much in dec/jan, but the rest of the year I try and post every other day, minimum. It is just an extension of your website.
 
Great thread topic!

1. Why are you priced comparatively to your competition? That just tells people that price shop that you do similar work. My prices are disgusting low compared to a lot of people on this board, but believe it or not I'm a lot higher than ANYONE else in my market. Don't sit in the muddy middle, be either the top and worth the price of the top, or the bottom with quality to show for it.

2. What do you offer beyond interior/exterior that makes you different? Uniqueness = attention+money. People will see that you offer things different than anyone else does such as coatings, odor removal, paint correction(very small clientele here), ect. and it really does set you apart. Not to mention it is the key to the UPSELL. A key profit margin increasing tool for any business.

3. No offense, but the problem is not usually Google Adwords, it is the person running it. They are obviously going to your site if you are getting clicks, but they are clicking away because of price/how your website looks/what you offer. When someone clicks your site within 30 seconds they need to be able to find your contact number, rough price for their type of vehicle, and pictures of your work. Your web site needs to say you are the one, and the only one to go to.

4. Do you have an active facebook page? I don't update mine much in dec/jan, but the rest of the year I try and post every other day, minimum. It is just an extension of your website.

excellent advise mark! your brand is one of the few i follow and i'll be contacting you for advice on my own brand, once i get it closer to where it needs to be
 
excellent advise mark! your brand is one of the few i follow and i'll be contacting you for advice on my own brand, once i get it closer to where it needs to be

Thanks! I'm nowhere near where I want to be yet, but things are going well. Becoming a "household name" even in a local small market is tough stuff.
 
Mark it's spot on, especially regarding AdWords success. I have an article floating around somewhere with pointers on how to setup and run a successful and profitable AdWords campaign.

The key, as Mark suggested, is you have to offer a shopper no reason to look anywhere else. You need some sort of a captivating "limited time offer" that gives a prospective customer the feeling that they will lose out by not doing business with you.

A good example would be to offer your most popular package with a free add on our for a discount. But the offer should expire soon. Like "book before such and such date for 15% off." This will make sure you aren't wasting money on clicks only to have people click to your competitor to possibly save 5 bucks or whatever.

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just a suggestion/question did you have a grand opening /open house
did you invite any of your business neighbors,chamber members and residents from your area to your shop to do a demonstration of what you do and let them know you are there. for example have an open house with a demonstration just after normal work hours so people can come after work and see what you do inexpensive appetizers, beverages maybe a drawing for some kind of service I agree update facebook often
 
I have tried adwords with no success. I have tried what you post before Nicholas and I've had no success with it. Reputation is a huge in our business when there are lots a hacks out there. Like Mark said about pricing is very true my prices are higher than everyone else by me. Most people have no problem paying for it especially after they see their car.You will always get the cheap person wanting something for nothing and those kinds of customers can go somewhere else.
 
Great thread topic!

1. Why are you priced comparatively to your competition? That just tells people that price shop that you do similar work. My prices are disgusting low compared to a lot of people on this board, but believe it or not I'm a lot higher than ANYONE else in my market. Don't sit in the muddy middle, be either the top and worth the price of the top, or the bottom with quality to show for it.

2. What do you offer beyond interior/exterior that makes you different? Uniqueness = attention+money. People will see that you offer things different than anyone else does such as coatings, odor removal, paint correction(very small clientele here), ect. and it really does set you apart. Not to mention it is the key to the UPSELL. A key profit margin increasing tool for any business.

3. No offense, but the problem is not usually Google Adwords, it is the person running it. They are obviously going to your site if you are getting clicks, but they are clicking away because of price/how your website looks/what you offer. When someone clicks your site within 30 seconds they need to be able to find your contact number, rough price for their type of vehicle, and pictures of your work. Your web site needs to say you are the one, and the only one to go to.

4. Do you have an active facebook page? I don't update mine much in dec/jan, but the rest of the year I try and post every other day, minimum. It is just an extension of your website.

1. I am priced compared to the other very high end detailer that I consider competition. I am not a low end priced detailer, we have a superior product and I am more interested in getting a quality customer than quantity. The rest of the detailers are much lower in price, although we do have a service that matches price with a superior product. We rarely give a price out over the phone and if we do it is with a ton of caveats. Profit is not the issue, it is getting customers to know we exist.

2. We are set apart from anyone else in the SF Bay Area due to the product and the skills of the people I have working for me. My Yelp Reviews are novels about exceptional service and how magnificent the cars look when they get picked up and how what we do lasts more than anyone else. We literally kick butt once a customer gets in the door.
Upselling is not the issue,again the question is getting potential customers to know we exist. Once in the door and they see what we do, upselling is simple. I ran a very profitable Groupon campaign and 95% upgraded over and above the price we were at, willingly with no pressure on our part. We made suggestions once we saw the car and customers were happy to upgrade. I actually made money on the campaign and got very few coupon clippers. In fact we got several customers to bring in their second car at full price. That did help get us some of the exposure we were looking for.

3. No offense taken and hope it is reciprocal when I say I had probably one of the best campaigns seen. I had inside information from someone intimately involved in Adwords helping me review what I put together, so the program was better than excellent. I do have a clue about how to make this work, along with first hand knowledge of the program and what makes it tick. Being in Silicon Valley, and being an ultra techie myself we put together an incredible campaign. We had thousands of impressions with an average position of 1.2. My assistant, who has intimate knowledge of the program was not totally baffled when she looked at the stats and Adwords results from others in our area.

4. Yes there is a very active Facebook, Linkedin and Blog going. My website was farmed out to someone that was going to revolutionize how a website interacted with people. In theory they had something really cool, in reality it totally sucked, and we lost a ton of ranking, as they did not conform to Google's Panda and Penguin releases best practices.
I was the customer from hell, as I knew what needed to be done. Once my contract was up I dropped them, and I am slowly rebuilding our ranking.

Organic searches get us to the top in our local area, which is very high end but small. I am slowly getting the ranking up in surrounding areas, but still begs the question what have other people done to get your surrounding potential customers to know you exist?
 
I have tried adwords with no success. I have tried what you post before Nicholas and I've had no success with it. Reputation is a huge in our business when there are lots a hacks out there. Like Mark said about pricing is very true my prices are higher than everyone else by me. Most people have no problem paying for it especially after they see their car.You will always get the cheap person wanting something for nothing and those kinds of customers can go somewhere else.
:iagree:
 
Organic searches get us to the top in our local area, which is very high end but small. I am slowly getting the ranking up in surrounding areas, but still begs the question what have other people done to get your surrounding potential customers to know you exist?

Ok then, you are looking to brand your business. Branding is all about name recognition, which means you will need exposure.

Branding is one of the most long term successful marketing campaigns ANY business can do, but it involves a lot.

Branding will include, but will not be limited to a combination of e-mail, web based, social media, print material, signing(such as bill boards, yard signs, ect.), radio/tv, promotional, and referral based marketing.

It is all about getting people to "recognize" your business, and it is more than just advertising.

I'm just in the relative beginning stages of branding my business, and I've been at it for almost two years. It really is an ongoing and aggressive marketing approach.

I can give you some advice on what has worked for me so far, but would really need to know more about your business/market/plan first. It really is a "process" that takes a lot of time, dedication, and sometimes money.
 
The reason adwords didn't work is because of your website. While it looks pretty nice...It's hard to use and doesn't follow web design standards. You should re-do the entire thing and use HTML5 instead of java script.

Did you build specific landing pages for your adwords ads?

Also, this book will help you tons... Don't Make Me Think, Revisited: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability (3rd Edition) by Steve Krug.

PM if you want specific website help...I'm also well versed in SEO.
 
Ok then, you are looking to brand your business. Branding is all about name recognition, which means you will need exposure.

Branding is one of the most long term successful marketing campaigns any business can do, but it involves a lot.

Branding will include, but will not be limited to a combination of e-mail, web based, social media, print material, signing(such as bill boards, yard signs, ect.), radio/tv, promotional, and referral based marketing.

It is all about getting people to "recognize" your business, and it is more than just advertising.

I'm just in the relative beginning stages of branding my business, and I've been at it for almost two years. It really is an ongoing and aggressive marketing approach.

I can give you some advice on what has worked for me so far, but would really need to know more about your business/market/plan first. It really is a "process" that takes a lot of time, dedication, and sometimes money.

:iagree: It can take years to get your business to the top of your area where everyone has heard of you. To many people want it now and it takes time to build a customer base. In the detailing world you have to prove your self which means people have too see your work and have to trust you. Stay away from yelp and groupons all you will get is people only looking for a deal and while not be repeat customers. Yelp is the mafia! I'm part of a small business owner group in the process of legal action against them. Here is the link to there face Fookpage everyone should read this before ever puting your business on Yelp.
https://www.facebook.com/WeHateYelp
 
I checked out your website. Here's a couple of things I saw that I didn't like.

-Home page has nonething but pictures.
-"Hours/Location" page should be merged with the "Contacts" page.
-Are gift cards necessary? How many do you sell a month? Just curious.
-All of your pages are so short. Stretch them out.

Feel free to critique mine as well since I always want to improve!
 
I checked out your website. Here's a couple of things I saw that I didn't like.

-Home page has nonething but pictures.
-"Hours/Location" page should be merged with the "Contacts" page.
-Are gift cards necessary? How many do you sell a month? Just curious.
-All of your pages are so short. Stretch them out.

Feel free to critique mine as well since I always want to improve!

No worries, that site is setup to be very specific. The front page is simple by design. When you have too much on the front page the customer loses interest and moves on. The goal is to keep it very simple and have them come inside. The pages are short an simple for the same reason. You have about 5-6 seconds to grab the viewers attention and draw them in. If it takes more than that to review your information they will move on, or not really pay attention.
However the Contacts Page should not be there, and I realized I had to restore the site from a backup, and must have gotten interrupted and did not get the Contacts removed. The Contact in the Menu Bar should be Links. I had to play a little game with SEO to prevent 404's from happening with the old site until I could that page phased out. Which it now has been solved. Good call and totally agree with that!!!

I ran a Gift Certificate program for the Holidays and sold about 15 of them. That will come down on the 15th of Jan.
We did details for a CEO and Sr. Management of a an Internet Marketing company. They do some very serious websites, that I have no doubts you visited. This started out from a template that I really liked awhile back and they gave me advice to get it to this point. I used to do SEO on the side, so the site is beginning to come into it's own with organic searches.

The next area for the site is to really begin to deliver benefits of using us. I am studying some of the more successful retail oriented companies in Silicon Valley and getting to understand what they have on their sites and the information they deliver to the end consumer.
For instance Apple is a perfect example, when the iPod came out they marketed it as a 1000 song device, something anyone could understand. Others with similar devices were telling people they had 64GB of data, which no one really understood.
So the goal is to deliver information to the end consumer that anyone can understand.

However even with a decent and upcoming web presence, I still get. "I didn't know you were here. "
I will check out your site shortly.
 
The reason adwords didn't work is because of your website. While it looks pretty nice...It's hard to use and doesn't follow web design standards. You should re-do the entire thing and use HTML5 instead of java script.

Did you build specific landing pages for your adwords ads?

Also, this book will help you tons... Don't Make Me Think, Revisited: A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability (3rd Edition) by Steve Krug.

PM if you want specific website help...I'm also well versed in SEO.
Funny, I have gotten nothing but compliments on this site and it's ease of use by my customer base. It absolutely follows the newest web design standards and internally takes advantage of SEO. Viewing source you are only seeing a very, very minor portion of what makes this site work. I will give you a hint, it's called an HTML snapshot.

Adwords -Like I said I had insider information on what to do with Adwords,with more knowledge of the program than you can possibly imagine, and it simply didn't work in my area.

I will take a look at the book.
 
If you got $500 worth of clicks that means that either your adword ads were poorly designed to appeal to your market or your website failed to get you calls. Did your calls increase when you used adwords?
 
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