Glaze or Polish, which is correct?

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Another member created a thread and there was some confusion with respect to certain detailing terminology. (See here http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ss-paint-sealant-review-how-2.html#post265025)

I know over at MOL, the word "polish" or maybe better said "pure polish" is what people over here at AG call "glaze".

For example, I think most at AG would call Meguiars #7 a "glaze", while it is referred to as a "pure polish" at MOL.

Is one way the right way, one the wrong or can you use either? Is it something which has become synonomous with certain forums or is there an industry standard?

Thanks for the clarification!
 
Here at AG we think of a polish as something that removes scratches. Glazes are something that fills with no cut. MOL can call it what they want.:rolleyes:
 
Right on the bottle on #7 it is called show car glaze, not show car polish :) And it does not remove swirls, but hides blemishes and leaves a show car gloss according to the label.

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While #81, #83, and #205 etc... are called polishes, and do what polishes are supposed to do, remove swirls.

my 2 cents
 
A glaze is a polish, it just doesn't have any cutting/cleaning properties. (generally speaking).
 
a glaze isn't a polish.

people try to say that waxes and sealants are polishes.... but as it goes.

glaze = defect and swirl filler

wax = wax

sealant = sealant

polish = removes swirls and defects.


a polish/sealant AIO, will correct some swirls and leave a sealant on top to buff away

a wax glaze is a wax with filling agents in it to help hide swirls and defects

a sealer/glaze is a sealant that will fill some defects and leave a sealant on top to dry and buff away.

a cleaner wax is a polish with wax in it, so that when it dries to a haze, youve removed some swirls and have wax left on top


not sure how else it can be assumed to be
 
Rsurfer said:
Here at AG we think of a polish as something that removes scratches. Glazes are something that fills with no cut. MOL can call it what they want.:rolleyes:
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Just a bit confused because Mike Phillips wrote this a couple of weeks ago (here on AG - so I wasn't sure which to use):

We did the optional step of re-polishing the single stage paint using M07 Show Car Glaze to really gorge the paint with the high concentration of polishing oils found in M07 and then sealed the paint using NXT Tech Wax Paste version 1.0 (That's what I had in the garage).

And here on MOL:

M07 is a non-abrasive pure polish, it has the richest concentrations of Meguiar's Trade Secret Polishing oils and has been around since probably the 1920's and it works just as good today as it did when the Model T was coming off the assembly line.

Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online - View Single Post - #7 and #9
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impresion that Meguiar's #7 is a cleaner glaze in that it is a chemical cleaner that lays down oils/fillers to maximize shine, ready for a non-cleaning LSP.
 
Emile said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impresion that Meguiar's #7 is a cleaner glaze in that it is a chemical cleaner that lays down oils/fillers to maximize shine, ready for a non-cleaning LSP.
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I've always known M07 to be a "pure polish" which could be used with ANY of the Meguiars LSPs, from NXT, to Gold Class to anything else.
 
Well,
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This says glaze too, but it is a finishing polish. Has cut, not fillers.

So the OP's confusion is well founded.

DLB
 
Dalton Blevins said:
Well,
autogeek_2079_24860938

This says glaze too, but it is a finishing polish. Has cut, not fillers.

So the OP's confusion is well founded.

DLB
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Dalton,

Another perfect example... and yes, something which adds to my confusion!!! LOL
 
Rsurfer said:
Here at AG we think of a polish as something that removes scratches. Glazes are something that fills with no cut. MOL can call it what they want.:rolleyes:
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:iagree:

I would however suggest for marketing purposes and possibly to stand out in a crowd of "other" offerings the manufacturers sometimes use the terms loosely. Thus the product should be studied prior to use to fit the end-users needs.
 
I guess the best way is to read the instructions and forget what it's called on the label.
 
Different industries define the term polish differently.

In the metal industry, the term polish may be referred to the sanding and scratch removal process to bring metal to a shine. Think polished aluminum trims, polished alloy wheels, polished exhaust piping, etc, etc, etc...
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In the leather or shoe industry, the term polish refers to a process that adds a layer of color to the leather surface. Shoe polishes come in different colors to restore color and shine on leather shoes.
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Meguiar's has adapted the word polish to reflect the process of adding shine and depth to the paint. Other companies such as Menzerna has used the word polish as a process of scratch removal.

Meguiar's has used the word polish on one of their cleaners, #205; Ultra Finishing Polish. This is obviously a cleaner by Meguiar's definition, with a cut rating of 4.
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when someone from Meguiar's uses the word "polish", he is referring to it as a pure polish, aka a glaze. For many others, the word polish simply means a product that removes scratches.
 
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Industry Standard = Oxymoron (a new one I can add to my list). I can't speak for anyone other than myself, but Product choice is more than half the battle that we all have to decide for ourselves. Then do I apply said product now or later, outside temp, dewpoint, etc. I guess I'm just a simple-minded individual and go with the K.I.S.S. plan. I feel that if the Product does not make the project look better or move forward in the process, then I don't waste my time with it. Pardon me for not giving a defining answer to your orginal question "Glaze or Polish, which is correct?" because as soon as I define it someone else / different website / forum / magazine article etc. will say that I'm wrong or incorrect. For me I go to the garage and test the product based on what the Manf. states & read the instructions as printed on the label, if it works / improves then I add said product to my arsenal, if not then trash can & and await the new sales, packaging, marketing of a new & improved MIRACLE product or tip from a friend. Does anyone else out there feel like I do or am I by myself? I wish all the chemist would get together and formulate an "Industry Standard" along with a Process plan & all of work would comeout looking the best that a particular paint job can be. I'm just a guy that wants to perform the best job for my clients so they'll come back & refer me to others. I would say with regard to Mike's article he wrote it with a particular goal / job / process in mind at that time for a isolated process, not as a General rule / this step covers all situations. I have met & talked with Mike and certainly feel that I came away with better information knowledge for doing so. I also chose to become a member of this site because of all the knowledge that is at my fingertips for: tips / tricks / helpful info / Help I'm not correcting a particular job, & to make new Friends. I use to lurk & post "Hello's", but now have decided to engage to put myself out here before what I consider to be my peer's of this detailing indusrty & how I make a living. WOW sorry for the NOVEL, my Glaze's 3M line one for light colored paints & one for dark colored paints has no fillers & remove swirls. My Polish's 3M machine polish & ultrafine both have no fillers.
So I'm with ya "Glaze or Polish, which is correct?"
Feed back please
 
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