Going through pads like crazy with the rupes 21..

Gsrjake

Gsrjake

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So I've been having a lot of problems with my rupes ruining a lot of my pads(non rupes) mainly all my uber foam, MF, Adams or anything that is not rupes pad will get really hot and burn through the pad, tear the lining, and or sink in the middle of it. Is my rupes running too hot?
 
I've run pretty much all types of pads on my Rupes 21 and have never had any of those problems.

Are you putting pressure on the Rupes? As you don't need to. You also don't need to do tons of passes.
 
I warped a buff n shine mf pad on my rupes before, and warped a red lake country waxing pad too.

Also, at Meguiar's TNOG another attendee made a Meguiar's MF cut pad smoke up, the paint was still cool to the touch, but there was literally smoking coming out of the pad, in between the the rupes backing plate and the mf pad.
 
hernandez.art13 said:
I warped a buff n shine mf pad on my rupes before, and warped a red lake country waxing pad too.

Also, at Meguiar's TNOG another attendee made a Meguiar's MF cut pad smoke up, the paint was still cool to the touch, but there was literally smoking coming out of the pad, in between the the rupes backing plate and the mf pad.
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Wow just yesterday I was cleaning up a side swipe on an AUDI A6 using MEGUAIR'S UC (CARPRO FIXER wasn't cutting) on my FLEX 3401 using (Lake Country Ultra-Fiber Dual Action Microfiber Pads) with pressure when I stopped pad rotation and moved from paint, paint was smoking on speed 6, had me a little nervous but all was well
 
I believe it's due to the large throw of the machine and the amount of pull it's causing on the Velcro of that pad that is causing the heat build up. This pulling will the cause the glue and foam to heat up like crazy cause the pad to fail.

Remember those pads other than the Rupes weren't designed for that large throw of a machine. If you have the 21 (21 mm throw) your nearly tripling the amount of throw distance from a tradition DA which is only 8mm. The foam, the glue, and the Velcro of the Rupes pads were all designed to account for the large throw and all that comes along with it.

If you YouTube the Detailfest video of Jason Rose and the Meguiars DA system he explains the pull between the backing plate and the Velcro on the pad and why it can cause failure with larger throw machines.
 
GREAT description of the dynamics and consequences of a larger throw! Thanks.

Searching for the JR video now...
 
You might try giving the machine and pads a break every 15 minutes or so
 
RawDetail said:
I've run pretty much all types of pads on my Rupes 21 and have never had any of those problems.

Are you putting pressure on the Rupes? As you don't need to. You also don't need to do tons of passes.
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:iagree: most problems people have are due to user error. NO PRESSURE!
 
Speed 5, No pressure but I may believe it's from continuing use. I don't take any breaks when correcting a car so it tends to get super hot and warp real bad. I guess I'll just use one pad a section, I have tons of rupes pads but they're not that great, personally. Thanks for the info guys.
 
Sounds like the Rupes needs an intercooler, LOL!

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I haven't used rupes pads but have heard good things about their pads and polishes.
Maybe try them some more.
 
I only used the Rupes once but I can see why your having problems, the through is massive could be why your pads are getting destroyed.
Maybe using the Rupes pads only would fix your problem.
You know I use my rotary and must say I don't have any issues with the pads failing.
I'm sure there's a solution for this, the guys here that own the Rupes will come to your rescue:dblthumb2:

Kevin
 
Gsrjake said:
Speed 5, No pressure but I may believe it's from continuing use. I don't take any breaks when correcting a car so it tends to get super hot and warp real bad. I guess I'll just use one pad a section, I have tons of rupes pads but they're not that great, personally. Thanks for the info guys.
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You can use only a couple of pads per car if desired but you have to blow them or use a nylon brush to clean them often. Heat builds up when the pores get clogged up then you are in trouble.

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Klasse Act said:
Sounds like the Rupes needs an intercooler, LOL!

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right lol

KillaCam said:
I haven't used rupes pads but have heard good things about their pads and polishes.
Maybe try them some more.
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I have blue, orange, yellow, and white rupes pads I use them sometimes but not as much as uber
HateSwirls said:
I only used the Rupes once but I can see why your having problems, the through is massive could be why your pads are getting destroyed.
Maybe using the Rupes pads only would fix your problem.
You know I use my rotary and must say I don't have any issues with the pads failing.
I'm sure there's a solution for this, the guys here that own the Rupes will come to your rescue:dblthumb2:

Kevin
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Yeah rotary I usually have no problems either but its not a daily for me

HD.Detailing said:
i blow the pads out after each section.. how often do you clean the pad?
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probably 2-3 panels ill clean them after, I guess I need to clean them a lot more then in between
VP Mark said:
You can use only a couple of pads per car if desired but you have to blow them or use a nylon brush to clean them often. Heat builds up when the pores get clogged up then you are in trouble.

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I did not know that, that's probably one of my problems thanks for the info..
 
Gsrjake said:
probably 2-3 panels ill clean them after, I guess I need to clean them a lot more then in between
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That's your problem right there. I was just now using my Rupes 21 with Buff & Shine MF pads and I would stop and switch pads after EVERY panel or even half panel based upon how hot the pad gets. After every section you do, just feel the pad and it will most likely be pretty hot. Keep going and the glue will fail, the pad will get super hot and when it gets hot you will see the pads start to tear close to the backing plate.

It's all about cooling and cleaning frequently.
 
I've corrected two cars using Meg's MF pads with Rupes 21 and so far no problems, I stop after each panel for few minuets to wipe the panel and clean the pad
 
Might want to go less aggressive with your setup and adjust the aggressive/product choice/pressure. The Rupes has a huge throw so paint residue vastly increases with each panel.

Try priming more, cleaning often, and using less pressure as you go.
 
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