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I want to remove the Pinnacle Souveran Wax from my black car before sealing it. What is a good product for easily removing wax. Something I can spray on and wipe off.

I tried Pinnacle Paintrworks Cleansing Lotion but that sucks as you have to basically rub it on like a polish and buff it off and it made my paint hazy. I don't want to resort to using Dawn on my car but I'm not using that cleansing lotion again.

I clayed the car but appearantly according to many forums INCLUDING THIS ONE, Claying the car does or does not remove the wax depending on which poster you believe.
 
I use CG wash clear for stripping LSP before a new wax or sealant. Works well for me.
 
+1 for chemical guys citrus wash clear, and generally speaking claying does remove some if not all last step product
 
A good all purpose cleaner (paint safe, of course) will take the wax off. In fact, there was a thread recently that showcased different common methods that people use to strip wax, and the only one that did it the first time was the APC. The CG soap needed multiple attempts, and so did dawn.

Since you want something that is spray on, wash car and you're done, I think the APC is going to be the way to go. I believe that the thread used purple power or something, but other known paint safe APCs include P21S and Optimum Power Clean (both I've used and think are fantastic.)

Happy detailing!
 
Thanks. Is an APC a regular car wash soap that is used just like a car wash? I wash my car with Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo but that does not remove wax.
 
wash like you normally would with a stronger dilution of car wash and also spray each panel with some APC, wash, and then rinse immediately...
 
APC stands for all purpose cleaner, no it's not an car wash it's a degreaser, wax stripper, cleaner, etc
 
Depending upon the LSP you will have to play with the dilution ratio of your car soap. Here are some I have used with success.
CG Bug Bugger
CG Citrus Wash Red this one seems to work particularly well for me
CG Citrus Wash and Gloss
Carpro Iron X snow soap
Finish Kare 118 Super Concentrated Soap

you can also try adding some APC to your bucket with your car soap or even a little bit Klasse All in One seems to work too
 
Do a bit of searching on the topic. I have pushed hard to get the idea of residual surfactant films mimicing LSP stripping and several people have been able to easily replicate my findings to demonstrate that some of the suggestions above simply do not work.

As far as I am concerned, a handwash product, like a shampoo you add to a bucket and dunk your hands into, should not and will not strip a wax or other LSP of any worth. If the product doesn't irritate your skin, it won't have a chance, many which do, still won't strip, simply lay down a film which removes beading and sheeting.
 
Pipuk, can you confirm apc or klasse aio do strip lsps?

Are you saying something like cg citrus wash wont?
 
dfoxengr said:
Pipuk, can you confirm apc or klasse aio do strip lsps?

Are you saying something like cg citrus wash wont?
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Read the post again. They only way to truly strip a LSP is with an abrasive polish or a specified paint cleaner. Neither APC or Klasse AIO fit into those catagories.

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Sorry, i see nothing in the post referring to polishing.

PiPUK said:
Do a bit of searching on the topic. I have pushed hard to get the idea of residual surfactant films mimicing LSP stripping and several people have been able to easily replicate my findings to demonstrate that some of the suggestions above simply do not work.

As far as I am concerned, a handwash product, like a shampoo you add to a bucket and dunk your hands into, should not and will not strip a wax or other LSP of any worth. If the product doesn't irritate your skin, it won't have a chance, many which do, still won't strip, simply lay down a film which removes beading and sheeting.
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PiPUK said:
Do a bit of searching on the topic. I have pushed hard to get the idea of residual surfactant films mimicing LSP stripping and several people have been able to easily replicate my findings to demonstrate that some of the suggestions above simply do not work.

As far as I am concerned, a handwash product, like a shampoo you add to a bucket and dunk your hands into, should not and will not strip a wax or other LSP of any worth. If the product doesn't irritate your skin, it won't have a chance, many which do, still won't strip, simply lay down a film which removes beading and sheeting.
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Ultima paint guard wash must leave a durable film when I use it because it destroys my beading and it doesn't ever return.
 
dfoxengr said:
Sorry, i see nothing in the post referring to polishing.
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There are countless threads on this subject. Please use the search function. But like I said earlier. The only guaranteed way to remove any LSP is with a polish or paint cleaner.

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The original question was is there something I can spray on to remove Pinnacle Souveran paste wax, so in the this case I still feel like the products I mentioned will strip this LSP. However I don't think this is the best method to prep your car prior to putting on a sealant.
In most other cases I would say that Pipunk and the others are right.
 
IMHO you don't want to chemically strip LSP as a means to an end - although Souverän is pretty easy to strip. Almost any APC will remove it. The real issue is, what went wrong with the Pinnacle Paint Cleaning Lotion? That is a high quality product, and should not leave paint hazy in any way. The "haze" may come in if you are using to much product and wipe-off is difficult and incomplete.

While using chemicals to strip paint is possible, it does nothing positive for the finish. A good paint cleanser (like Pinnacle) will clean the paint, leave some type of glaze on it, and leave it ready to accept new wax. Some wax removing chemical will do one thing - remove wax or sealant. I'm assuming you are working by hand? Or, you could use an ultra fine polish by machine or hand.

The above will give you the best results, since you will be doing *something* to the paint to improve the look while removing your wax at the same time. It's not the fastest or easiest way - but it's the way to get the best results.
 
I'd polish it out using 205 then wash the car again adding a little bit of APC.
That should be plenty to remove the wax plus the 205 would prep it nicely for you to get it ready for a sealant.
Well that's how I do it anyway and works great IMO
 
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