Got the new Ultima Waterless & Rinseless Today!

Rsurfer said:
Ultima wins in the cost and smell dept. Tied in the cleaning dept., but OOC gets my vote on the gloss dept. I also noticed that OOC does not hold dirt on my mf unlike ONR.
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You are probably right Ron. I havent done A GLOSS COMPARISON. i DID DO A BUG REMOVAL TEST, USING A FANTASTIC pAK sHAK mf side by side. The OOC beat out the Ultima by a nose. Both are superior for bug removal compared to QD;s IMO!
 
Rsurfer said:
Ultima wins in the cost and smell dept. Tied in the cleaning dept., but OOC gets my vote on the gloss dept. I also noticed that OOC does not hold dirt on my mf unlike ONR.
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Thanks Ron. Looks like I'm going to have to take a couple more looks at the two side by side.
 
I have really grown to like Ultima's Waterless Wash.

Using AG pricing before shipping costs (16 oz. conc. for UWW vs. 32 oz. conc. for Optimum Opti-Clean), you can make a 22 oz. solution of UWW for a mere 66 cents. I also use it daily for quick wipedowns.

I still like Opti-Clean...use it on slightly heavier dirt (but as a spray and wipe product it is $2.75 to make up 22 oz., based on the 32 oz. conc.). Still a good price, but not $0.66.

Now as a rinseless wash I find they both work well. But here it takes 1 oz. of UWW to make a 3 gal solution (=$1.31) versus a mere $0.75 for ONR (1.5 oz. for 3 gal).

And, Optimum offers even larger concentrates which are more cost effective.

Both are great productsd IMO.
 
Good info Waxmax, I'm waiting on my UWW+ Concentrate to arrive now. How does it compare to say, ONR mixed at QD strength?
 
As far as comparing UWW+ to ONR at QD strength, the UWW+ is designed to clean better and still leave a slight bit of protection and some slickness. IMO, it's a QD with better cleaning capability.

UWW+ has almost replaced my use of typical QDs. It can also be used as a clay lube.

I mixed the concentrate (.5 oz) with distilled water to make a 22 oz. solution. I think distilled water might reduce streaking(?).

I've been happy with it. But, for rinseless washes, I still reach for ONR.
 
Waxmax said:
As far as comparing UWW+ to ONR at QD strength, the UWW+ is designed to clean better and still leave a slight bit of protection and some slickness. IMO, it's a QD with better cleaning capability.

UWW+ has almost replaced my use of typical QDs. It can also be used as a clay lube.

I mixed the concentrate (.5 oz) with distilled water to make a 22 oz. solution. I think distilled water might reduce streaking(?).

I've been happy with it. But, for rinseless washes, I still reach for ONR.
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How was ease of use compared with ONR QD though, I guess that's what I meant. Is it about the same? Do you need to use less product with the UWW versus the ONR or anything else different about it? I'm still going to go with ONR/DP rinseless for rinseless washes as well, but I picked this up to replace QD's
 
Waxmax said:
As far as comparing UWW+ to ONR at QD strength, the UWW+ is designed to clean better and still leave a slight bit of protection and some slickness. IMO, it's a QD with better cleaning capability.

UWW+ has almost replaced my use of typical QDs. It can also be used as a clay lube.

I mixed the concentrate (.5 oz) with distilled water to make a 22 oz. solution. I think distilled water might reduce streaking(?).

I've been happy with it. But, for rinseless washes, I still reach for ONR.
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I agree on all counts. I only use distilled water to mix Ultima or OOC or OID. I havent used my QD's in a while. I did an ONR wash of the Ford today. I sprayed the Ultima on the grill and let it dwell while I did the tailgate. I then ONR'ed the grill and the bugs were gone with one swipe! OOC does same. I dont use ONR at QD strength anymore since these waterless have new polymers that ONR doesnt. Corey posted a response from Dr. G. regarding the differences a while back in his stellar OOC review. Hope this helps!
 
zliegen said:
How was ease of use compared with ONR QD though, I guess that's what I meant. Is it about the same? Do you need to use less product with the UWW versus the ONR or anything else different about it? I'm still going to go with ONR/DP rinseless for rinseless washes as well, but I picked this up to replace QD's
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IMO you wont be using ONR QD anymore! Use it the same. It is inexpensive and liberal use protects your paint more IME.
 
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