Here's a thought. Why do you think none of the big players (CarPro, Gyeon, Gtechiniq, etc) have put out products with Graphene in the formula? Because it's a marketing gimmick with no value.
The same thing was said about ceramic coatings and look where we are now. Only time will tell if graphene will stick around. By the way IGL and Kamikaze have adopted graphene into their product line up. They are both pretty big players in the coating market. More so worldwide than the states.
CarPro, Gyeon, Gtechniq Optimum, etc are sticking with what they know and improving their formula. Why not? It works and in the end they will evolve their product to perform well. Stick to what you know is pretty common and perhaps it may come back to bite them in the backside whether its graphene or not. Only time will tell.
All these companies out there rushing to take their previous formulas and dump some graphene oxide powder in the bottle and pretend it's a superior product, just to make a new sale.
As much as I and others like to play chemist I would say that it is much more than just adding graphene powder. That is just the take of a few probably because this is what they were using at the time. Only the chemist knows what it is truly going on.
Keep using what you liked, the SiO2 formulas were game changes, Graphene is not and will eventually pass. That is until they actually have a way to produce a true graphene coating and not just add powder to a ceramic formula hoping it will make it much better.
Again only time will tell if Graphene goes the way of Teflon. For now graphene oxide is as good as it gets. Still a ceramic coating at its core just a different technology. No different than a titanium dioxide (TiO2) silicon carbide (SiC) coatings or whatever other infusions we have seen.
Yes agreed. While Gtechniq came out with nothing new Carpro’s and Gyeon released new coatings while Graphene is in full hype.
CarPro chose to us Silicon Carbide while Gyeon chose Fluoro Polysilazane. 2 ingredients that do what the want in these new coatings. If Graphene did what the wanted as it would connect better with the masses.
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Fluoro Polysilozanes does not make the coating fluorine based so keep that in mind. The Gyeon coatings are "ceramics" as is CarPro SiC. Here is one to think about, how much SiC is in CarPrio SiC to officially call it a silicon carbide coating? Their TiO2 coating was only like 10% of the ceramic formula. I suspect SiC to be the same. It literally feels like the same coating as TIO2.
Only time will tell if Graphene is hype or if it will survive and continue to evolve.
This pretty much sums it up for me. When the heavy hitters in the coating space buy in, *that* will say something.
IGL and Kamikaze have gone all in and they are pretty heavy hitters in the coating world. Will they get burned by the adopting of graphene? Who knows.
Good topic to speak about but in the end time will dictate where it goes.
Thanks for the suggestion. I did see the Detailing Breakdown comparing the two products. He felt like the hydrophobic properties of the original was slightly better than the graphene version. But he did not measure gloss or durability. I am inclined to stick with the original.
It is a spray. Who cares about the durability when you can just use it as often as you like. Get the one you feel gets you the best performance regardless of the cost. If you see more benefit from the graphene one then get that. If not then stick with what you know works.
Gloss like slickness is all based on each persons definition. I could say X product is slicker, glossier and durable than product Y and someone else can see it the other way around. All a different perception.
Good topic in this thread.
