Griots Ceramic wash and coat

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04lss

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Hi all,

let me start off by saying im a fan of griots. I love their ceramic spray, I have a g8 and hopefully this afternoon a g9.

I am not as happy with the Wash and coat. I needed to clean my s4 after a few weeks of neglect. I purchased the Ceramic wash to have a maintenance wash for my griots ceramic coated cars.

First off the product suds when you add water to the bucket but the suds die pretty quickly, usually before i can actually start cleaning the car, and it looks like a bucket of vaguely green water. Im not unused to this having used ONR, and the wolfgang rinse less wash, but i expected suds. Not a killer.

My main issue was the lack of cleaning ability. It didnt seem to remove the stuborn dirt without a lot of agitation. Letting it dwell didnt help much. I had a second unusued bucket which i added some of griots normal sudsing wash to. This was able to clean with more ease, it also provided more glide to the wash mit. Overall the cleaning ability was about on par with a rinseless wash.

The Wash and coat did seem to apply some protection to the paint, so it seems to succeed in that regard.

Overall, if you need a maintenance wash to keep the dust and a little bit of recent road grime off a well maintained car, then this should be just fine. It will take car of a car that is washed weekly and that experiences normal conditions.
I would not however recommend replacing your existing car wash soap for heavier jobs, like winter salt, a car that hasnt been washed in a bit, etc.


I wouldnt reccomend against it, but i do think I expected more from a wash requiring a rinse.
 
Eldorado2k said:
You’re not as big a fan as “Visitor”.


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Oh man, i started writing a reply to explain all the products i like, thinking you were calling me a visitor before i realized you weren't ... :doh:

FWIW, if your a griots fan, i definitely wouldnt say dont use this stuff, id just say also have some convential wash as well.
 
You are correct its only good for a wash to get ligh dust/ pullen off. That is all the product it's good for and in my opinion is all it was made for. Does leave about 3 to 4 weeks worth of protection. It's a decent soap to have but I don't reach for it often
 
04lss said:
Oh man, i started writing a reply to explain all the products i like, thinking you were calling me a visitor before i realized you weren't ... :doh:

FWIW, if your a griots fan, i definitely wouldnt say dont use this stuff, id just say also have some convential wash as well.
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Lol. Yea it’s all in good fun. Visitor is an actual dude if you haven’t seen his posts yet… I’ve actually met Visitor irl and I can say for a fact that he’s a cool dude. He’s also a hardcore Griots fan, and heck so am I, but in no way do I compare to Visitor.

My main polisher is a Griots Boss G21, so that outta give you an idea.
 
Griot's did mention that the added SiO2 on the soap kills the suds but it still functions fine, suds aren't necessary I believe is what they said.

I have never tried that soap, so I can't speak about its cleaning abilities. I use and recommend CarPro Reset for any coated car.
 
Bruno Soares said:
Griot's did mention that the added SiO2 on the soap kills the suds but it still functions fine, suds aren't necessary I believe is what they said.

I have never tried that soap, so I can't speak about its cleaning abilities. I use and recommend CarPro Reset for any coated car.
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yeah, suds are not a requirement, i just wanted to note it. Ive used rinseless wash for years so it doesn't bother me.
 
Eldorado2k said:
Lol. Yea it’s all in good fun. Visitor is an actual dude if you haven’t seen his posts yet… I’ve actually met Visitor irl and I can say for a fact that he’s a cool dude. He’s also a hardcore Griots fan, and heck so am I, but in no way do I compare to Visitor.

My main polisher is a Griots Boss G21, so that outta give you an idea.
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I have a G9 coming this afternoon. ive been debating replacing my harbor freight polisher with one for the last year. Ive got like 5 cars in the next month that are going to need it.
 
04lss said:
I have a G9 coming this afternoon. ive been debating replacing my harbor freight polisher with one for the last year. Ive got like 5 cars in the next month that are going to need it.
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I recently replaced my HF DA with one of these new mini 3” polishers. The HF DA is a tank, but it’s nowhere near as smooth as these new polishers are. Your G9 should be a definite upgrade and not too expensive either. Have fun.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I recently replaced my HF DA with one of these new mini 3” polishers. The HF DA is a tank, but it’s nowhere near as smooth as these new polishers are. Your G9 should be a definite upgrade and not too expensive either. Have fun.
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my g8 mini 3 inch is a big part of the reason i got the g9. I LOVE my g8.
 
04lss said:
my g8 mini 3 inch is a big part of the reason i got the g9. I LOVE my g8.
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What backing plate are you using on G8? Is it this backing plate? Or did it come with a new designed backing plate on that machine?

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My new 3” mini polisher came with this backing plate but I’m starting to think I don’t like it because I think it’s starting to cut into the edges of some of my little pads. I’m on the verge of switching to that fat Griots backing plate in the 1st pic.

Here’s the backing plate the polisher came with. Does the G8 backing plate look like this or the 1st pic?

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Eldorado2k said:
What backing plate are you using on G8? Is it this backing plate? Or did it come with a new designed backing plate on that machine?

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My new 3” mini polisher came with this backing plate but I’m starting to think I don’t like it because I think it’s starting to cut into the edges of some of my little pads. I’m on the verge of switching to that fat Griots backing plate in the 1st pic.

Here’s the backing plate the polisher came with. Does the G8 backing plate look like this or the 1st pic?

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It's a vented backing plate like the 2nd pic.

3" Vented Orbital Backing Plate


- Griot's Garage
 
To me, Wash and Coat is maybe a mismarketed product. It does not clean well. You shouldn't have to wash your car before washing your car.

For me, I'd say the longevity is 2 months and counting though so that part it does well. I did end up with some spotting which wasn't too bad to clean off and might not happen with the next usage if I'm more careful. Also with a ceramic soap, is there now potential for wash mitts becoming hydrophobic?

Ceramic speed shine accomplishes the same thing and is easy to use so it's the preferred product for me right now. I have dedicated towels for that.

I could see wash and coat being useful for large vehicles if you foamed it on and rinsed it off.
 
MisterSnoop said:
To me, Wash and Coat is maybe a mismarketed product. It does not clean well. You shouldn't have to wash your car before washing your car.

For me, I'd say the longevity is 2 months and counting though so that part it does well. I did end up with some spotting which wasn't too bad to clean off and might not happen with the next usage if I'm more careful. Also with a ceramic soap, is there now potential for wash mitts becoming hydrophobic?

Ceramic speed shine accomplishes the same thing and is easy to use so it's the preferred product for me right now. I have dedicated towels for that.

I could see wash and coat being useful for large vehicles if you foamed it on and rinsed it off.
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Id say its best used as a maintenance wash if you clean your car regularly, like weekly. I woudlnt do anymore with it than i would with ONR. if that much.
 
At ~2.5 months now. I applied it before my car was partially repainted and it's still going.
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