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Quick question about the Gyeon MOHS Q2... It boasts hardness as one of its main features, so I was curious as to how difficult it is to polish it "off" when it is time to re-apply, or if I should just want to get rid of it and start from scratch??

Another quick question, what is an appropriate product to use as a QD with it? I currently use CG Hybrid V07 spray on two trucks currently done with Blackfire WD Sealant and would like to keep using it if possible. Any problems with using that spray on the Gyeon coating?

Thanks in advance!
 
Hey man. No coating except for maybe one or two professional grade ones need anything more than a good polish to get off. Anything you can buy as a consumer does not need wet sanding, only polish. As for a good detailer, there's never real issues with using any detailer but Hybrid V07 is more of a synthetic spray wax it seems than a true quick detailer so you can use it but it'll replace the coating's properties with its own. Ultimately it's your choice, but I would suggest since you're looking at Gyeon MOHS Q2, I'd suggest Gyeon Cure GYEON Q2M Cure - 400 ml
 
Another option for a quick detailer is Carpro Ech2o diluted to a detail spray. It is a waterless wash/detail spray designed for coated cars.
 
11Silverado said:
Another option for a quick detailer is Carpro Ech2o diluted to a detail spray. It is a waterless wash/detail spray designed for coated cars.
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And it works much better and last waaaaY longer than V07 to boot. V07 is more suited to waxed cars than coated as well.
 
Thanks for the info everyone...

Honestly, I was pretty concerned about the price, but diluting the Carpro spray seems pretty economical, and I'll definitely consider it.

So safe to say I won't have any issues with QDs as long as they ARE a QD and not a spray-wax product, but some are more optimized for coated cars than others?
 
WillSports3 said:
Hey man. No coating except for maybe one or two professional grade ones need anything more than a good polish to get off. Anything you can buy as a consumer does not need wet sanding, only polish. As for a good detailer, there's never real issues with using any detailer but Hybrid V07 is more of a synthetic spray wax it seems than a true quick detailer so you can use it but it'll replace the coating's properties with its own. Ultimately it's your choice, but I would suggest since you're looking at Gyeon MOHS Q2, I'd suggest Gyeon Cure GYEON Q2M Cure - 400 ml
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Agree.
 
rjk512 said:
Thanks for the info everyone...

Honestly, I was pretty concerned about the price, but diluting the Carpro spray seems pretty economical, and I'll definitely consider it.

So safe to say I won't have any issues with QDs as long as they ARE a QD and not a spray-wax product, but some are more optimized for coated cars than others?
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Carpro Ech2o is the only quick detailer that I am aware of that is specifically used for a coating. Products such as Gyeon Cure and Carpro Reload are spray silica sealants that can be used with coatings. The spray silica sealants are more maintenance coating products you can use a few times a year on your coating. I have not tried this yet, but some people have been dilutingsay 2 oz Carpro Ech2o, 2 oz Carpro Reload (or Gyeon Cure), and 28 oz or so of water. You also have the option of using Gyeon Wetcoat or Carpro Hydro2 to top your coating off as well. Those are both spray activated sealants. Back to your specific question about quick detailers, you should be fine using any quick detailer as long as it does not leave anything behind. I personally would recommend Carpro Ech2o. I love it and I've only used it as a quick detailer as of now. You can also dilute it as a clay lube, use it as a waterless wash, or a rinseless wash. It really isn't expensive when you see how little you use when you dilute it to your specific needs.
 
I am referring to your first part of your question. If you are concerned about re application, or starting from scratch, you probably shouldn't be considering a coating. It sounds like you would be better off trying some longer lasting sealants instead. It will be considerably cheaper.
 
rjk512 said:
Quick question about the Gyeon MOHS Q2... It boasts hardness as one of its main features, so I was curious as to how difficult it is to polish it "off" when it is time to re-apply, or if I should just want to get rid of it and start from scratch??

Another quick question, what is an appropriate product to use as a QD with it? I currently use CG Hybrid V07 spray on two trucks currently done with Blackfire WD Sealant and would like to keep using it if possible. Any problems with using that spray on the Gyeon coating?

Thanks in advance!
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Gyeon MOHS is easy to apply and wipe off when you apply it. I apply two coats to make sure every inch of the car is coated.
You can maintain it very easily with Carpro Ech2o 1 oz. + 16 oz or Distilled water and 1/2 oz. of Geyon Cure.
I do not like to use CURE straight but that's just me. I like Carpro Ech2o as you can make many bottles with it and one bottle of Carpro Ech2o will last a long time.

As for removing it after a year or so is very easy. Just wash and clay your car first like you always would before a full detail. Then just use a DA with a Yellow pad (I use Rupes) and buff off with a quality polish like Sonax Perfect Finish or HD Polish. I tend to jewel polish the car one more time with a while pad with HD polish and then wipe the car down twice with Gyeon Prep.

Then its a simple re apply from a 30 ML bottle instructions. Also if you buy the Gyeon MOHS Kit it comes with a small bottle of Gyeon Cure included with the applicator block and the suede application cloths.
 
I as well no use Ech20 mixed with cure and love the results that it give to a coated car.
 
rjk512 said:
Thanks for the info everyone...

Honestly, I was pretty concerned about the price, but diluting the Carpro spray seems pretty economical, and I'll definitely consider it.

So safe to say I won't have any issues with QDs as long as they ARE a QD and not a spray-wax product, but some are more optimized for coated cars than others?
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Trust me for a quick detailer just use the Ech2o mixed with some reload. Many other detailers don't play well on top of coatings. You need very little used, a little goes a long way. I use is at 1oz to 20oz of water. Then a light mist per panel.
 
Gyeon Mohs at 8 months - topped with ECH2O/Cure. It's a winning combination. In terms of hardness, I think it's pretty good compared to PBL, 22PLE and Wolfgang. More on par with C1, but it does swirl and scratch, as evidenced by my recent service done by Tesla. Had some scratches on the quarter panel that came out with some HD Polish without any difficulty (coating reapplied). However, these swirls were covered by a low speed quick buff with CarPro Essence Plus.

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Clarification: scratches along quarter panel were corrected with HD Polish. Swirls caused by dealer were filled in with E+.
 
You need a DO NOT WASH sign for your car when you take it to the dealership.

I never let them touch mine.
 
The red rags of love from your service center are used to wipe oil grease smudges off 1/4 panels hoods fenders etc. I see it all the time and cringe


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Can also wash with Gyeon Bathe+ which gives a little SiO2 boost each wash. For our coated cars I usually:
- Wash with Gyeon Bathe or Bathe+ (used to use WG Auto Bathe whihc have some insignificant glossing agents in it but now that it's gone, it'll be strictly Gyeon Bathe or Bathe+)
- Once a month I'll give it a rinse after wash with Gyeon Wetcoat or go over it post-wash with Gyeon Cure sprayed on microfiber applicator (seems to be easier this way and uses less product)
- If'n I wanna clean off some dust or something between washes I use Poorboy's Spray & Wipe which cleans but doesn't leave any glossing agents or such behind.

Just for fun last Friday I washed with Bathe+, rinsed with Wetcoat and then applied Cure. Likely a was perhaps overkill (i.e. 'waste') but why not.

Did use Gyeon MOHS for the first time last week...I like it. Very easy to use. After doing the vehicle, I had some left over so I used some Menz2400, Rupes Keramik Gloss Fine Gel Polish and Rupes Diamond Ultra Fine Gel Polish to remove 9-month old WG Uber Ceramic (or what was left of it) from the trunk lid of a black 2016 WRX and applied 3 layers of the Gyeon Mohs just to see how it goes.
 
I've been researching a lot over the past few days, and especially from what you guys have said, I'm thinking that the Gyeon MOHS Q2 and Ech2o as a QD is the way to go...

One other question - any limitation on car wash soap? I use Meguiar's Gold Class on everything because it's easy to come by around here and works great for what I need. I read on a website description somewhere that it does not really matter what soap you use (although some do provide benefits for coated vehicles).
 
rjk512 said:
I've been researching a lot over the past few days, and especially from what you guys have said, I'm thinking that the Gyeon MOHS Q2 and Ech2o as a QD is the way to go...

One other question - any limitation on car wash soap? I use Meguiar's Gold Class on everything because it's easy to come by around here and works great for what I need. I read on a website description somewhere that it does not really matter what soap you use (although some do provide benefits for coated vehicles).
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This is kind of along the same lines as using QD with coatings. You don't want to use soaps that leave anything behind ideally. Carpro reset, Gyeon Bathe and Gyeon Bathe+ are made for coatings.
 
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