Hard time removing polish from paint

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Kitoy22

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Hi guys! So I was working on a white toyota fortuner yesterday, using Griots DA with D300 and megs 5.5" MF cutting pad at speed 4 randomly bumping up the speed at 4.5 at some panels. After priming the pad, I just placed 3 pea sized dots on the pad to work on the paint with 5-6 passes per panel, what puzzles me was it was difficult to remove the polish from the paint, I have to use Griots pre wax cleaner to completely remove it.This was the first time I encountered this situation w/ D300, even when I used 105 on a D300 primed MF pad yesterday, I had a similar dilemma. Do you have any ideas what causes this, o is it something i am unconsciously doing? Thanks!
 
Soft Toyota paint. Some of it smears product and wont wipe off easily. I use the white polishing clothes that grab product better than plush MF towels.
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Kitoy22 said:
Hi guys! So I was working on a white toyota fortuner yesterday, using Griots DA with D300 and megs 5.5" MF cutting pad at speed 4 randomly bumping up the speed at 4.5 at some panels. After priming the pad, I just placed 3 pea sized dots on the pad to work on the paint with 5-6 passes per panel, what puzzles me was it was difficult to remove the polish from the paint, I have to use Griots pre wax cleaner to completely remove it.This was the first time I encountered this situation w/ D300, even when I used 105 on a D300 primed MF pad yesterday, I had a similar dilemma. Do you have any ideas what causes this, o is it something i am unconsciously doing? Thanks!
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Could it be that Toyota's white does not have a clear coat?
 
Rsurfer said:
Could it be that Toyota's white does not have a clear coat?
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It has a clear coat, no evidence of paint transfer on my pad was observed.

Soft Toyota paint. Some of it smears product and wont wipe off easily. I use the white polishing clothes that grab product better than plush MF towels.
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I've tried different towels also from plush to not so plush, long nap to short nap, did not make any difference except when sprayed with a polish oil remover. I have also worked on a toyota vehicles before, but did not encounter difficulty in removing the polish. This is really odd, is there any expiry for compounds and polishes or proper do's and dont's in storing these substances? Thanks!
 
In order to inspect a finish after compounding and polishing I use mineral spirits. I simply spray the area down then wipe with a all purpose microfiber towel. It works well and it very economical...
 
BobbyG said:
In order to inspect a finish after compounding and polishing I use mineral spirits. I simply spray the area down then wipe with a all purpose microfiber towel. It works well and it very economical...
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What kind of mineral spirits do you use?
 
Kitoy22 said:
What kind of mineral spirits do you use?
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I use an odorless mineral spirits by Klean-Strep. I get this at Lowe's but the brand and retailer isn't important, it's just a standard mineral spirits sold just about anywhere...:props:
 
BobbyG said:
I use an odorless mineral spirits by Klean-Strep. I get this at Lowe's but the brand and retailer isn't important, it's just a standard mineral spirits sold just about anywhere...:props:
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Thanks alot! i'll try to look for a similar product here.
 
Kitoy22 said:
Thanks alot! i'll try to look for a similar product here.
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You're welcome!

The thing I like about mineral spirits is it stays wet allowing me to thoroughly clean the area if polishing oils and remaining compound or polish. Just pour it in a standard spray bottle and you're good to go! :props:
 
It must be a pearl white as all pure white Toyota's have no clear coat.
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Then i'll have to double check this, for future projects, Thanks!
 
Rsurfer said:
Kitoy22 said:
It has a clear coat, no evidence of paint transfer on my pad was observed.
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It must be a pearl white as all pure white Toyota's have no clear coat.
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Do note that EJ is from the Philippines - the paint process for Toyota vehicles sold here is different from that in the US. I don't think any manufacturer sells a car without a clear coat over here (maybe in consideration of the effects the tropical sun might have on paint?).

EJ, it's particularly hot over here right now - could you be having issues with either the temp or the humidity?
 
imo, some polishes are harder to wipe off of single stage paints compared to clear coats, m105 for instance works totally different on the different paint systems. and all the single stage toyotas i have done have had really hard paint... try some ultimate compound. also heat/humidity/work time has alot to do with certain polishes drying onto finish, remember when polishing it will create heat so if panel is already pretty warm then you start buffing it just drys the polish and kind of smears it around, try a light mist of water on the pad and go back over the section fast and then wipe off immediately. that should soften everything back up and make it wipe away with ease.
 
umi000 said:
EJ, it's particularly hot over here right now - could you be having issues with either the temp or the humidity?
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Maybe Humidity, it was really humid yesterday

imo, some polishes are harder to wipe off of single stage paints compared to clear coats, m105 for instance works totally different on the different paint systems. and all the single stage toyotas i have done have had really hard paint... try some ultimate compound. also heat/humidity/work time has alot to do with certain polishes drying onto finish, remember when polishing it will create heat so if panel is already pretty warm then you start buffing it just drys the polish and kind of smears it around, try a light mist of water on the pad and go back over the section fast and then wipe off immediately. that should soften everything back up and make it wipe away with ease.
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Yes the polish was drying fast, umi might be right on the temp and humidity, i'll try the water spray next time. Thanks!
 
I had the exact same problem detailing my car today in NorCal. It was 80+ F here and my garage was probably even warmer. The polish dried very quickly. I then tried to prime the pad using a single spray sprint of QD (ONR v3 at QD Strength), and apply 3 pea-sized polish drops - that helped tremendously. Something to try..
 
iLLuSiOn said:
I had the exact same problem detailing my car today in NorCal. It was 80+ F here and my garage was probably even warmer. The polish dried very quickly. I then tried to prime the pad using a single spray sprint of QD (ONR v3 at QD Strength), and apply 3 pea-sized polish drops - that helped tremendously. Something to try..
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80 F? That's a nice cool day for us :D We're at around 36 to 39 C right now (97 to 102 F).
 
BobbyG said:
You're welcome!

The thing I like about mineral spirits is it stays wet allowing me to thoroughly clean the area if polishing oils and remaining compound or polish. Just pour it in a standard spray bottle and you're good to go! :props:
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Hey Bobby, how does mineral spirits compares to IPA and Eraser? I never used mineral spirits before but read here it quite popular.
 
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