Help save my back - Need tools to prevent bending

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I broke my back about 18 years ago. Now that I am older, at times it hurts worse than when it happened. Bending over to wash my vehicles kills me. Tires and wheels are too bad as I usually sit on something. What tools and brushes would you recommend I try that would allow me to wash without much bending? Of course, something that won't swirl and scratch my paint.

Thanks!

muscle
 
What about a rolling chair and rolling bucket so you can sit while you are doing the sides like you do with the wheels? I've never broken my back but the bending still kills me, so I hear ya.
 
telescopic handled montana boars hair brush- pricey and griots garage has a telescopic handled with a microfiber pad type . I use the boars hair brush just cause my truck sits tall and I don't have to lug out a ladder. either way still use the 2 bucket method .
 
telescopic handled montana boars hair brush- pricey and griots garage has a telescopic handled with a microfiber pad type . I use the boars hair brush just cause my truck sits tall and I don't have to lug out a ladder. either way still use the 2 bucket method .

I was just searching and reading on those brushes. A lot of people don't like them and say they create swirls and scratches. Others say they've not had a problem.

I was thinking maybe a foam gun, a boars hair brush and a rinse bucket. Use the foam gun to apply shampoo, wash a section with the brush, rinse in the rinse bucket and then move on to the next panel.
 
The BHB from Griots come from a new supplier nowadays. The older supplier's brushes supposedly had much higher quality and the problems lay with the new brushes.
 
I was just searching and reading on those brushes. A lot of people don't like them and say they create swirls and scratches. Others say they've not had a problem.

I was thinking maybe a foam gun, a boars hair brush and a rinse bucket. Use the foam gun to apply shampoo, wash a section with the brush, rinse in the rinse bucket and then move on to the next panel.

The BHB may be the ticket if you own a light colored car.
 
You still need to bend in order to dry the car. I have the same problem.
 
sorry to hear about your back limiting something you obviously want to do, i go through the same thing some days where my mind wants to do something but my back wont let me, sucks sometimes especially with me wanting to get a mobile business going.best i can suggest is for the lower panels/tires and wheels is a rolling chair like they sell on ag or maybe a creeper or maybe make something out of casters and a piece of plywood, lay some foam on it, cover with fabric, attach the castors then you can stay lower to the ground, move around without having to get up and sit down alot. then the upper panels you should be able to get by hand and for the roof use a BHB can just get a nice brush head and put it on any ole handle i know the green plastic bristled car wash brushes leave swirls , boars hair shouldn't do that as long as its kept clean and you're using the 2 bucket method. use your creativity just because something may not be sold on a detailing site dont mean you cant use it, just use common sense with it. wish a company or some of the current company's would make more ergonomic stuff for detailing to save your back, as all detailer's end up with a sore back!. best thing we can do is use trial and error of what helps us get the job done without straining us..keep positive and hope you find something to save your back!


EDIT: above poster said still need to bend over to dry the car. yes that is very true but if you have something like the metro master blaster or one of those dog dryers(same thing as the metros just way cheaper and not metro branded) you wont need to bend as much to dry the car as the water that's left behind you can get quick and just sit down on the rolling chair. also one might practice the "sheeting" technique when it comes to final rinse just remove hose nozzle and let the open hose pour on car and if car has a decent coat of lsp should leave less water then a normal rinse. i think mike phillips has a video showing the sheeting technique. works great so you don't need to dry up so much water..
 
I feel your pain. Mine troubles me too :(

Many excellent recommendations have already been stated for your consideration. Choosing what's best for you, is ultimately up to you. Good luck in your decisions. :)


{I tried to explain my back pain while "detailing" vehicles (among many chores on my honey-do list) to my wife, and that purchasing a vehicle lift/hoist, of some sort or the other, would ease some of my pains.

She countered with: "Let me figure out the long-term cost differential between a vehicle lift/hoist, and hiring a "Pool-Boy", and I'll get back with you". (YIKES!!!)}

Therefore: I'm considering putting back a few dollars in case I have to purchase a few more "moving-blankets" to lie on....other than the ones I use now, that is.

:)

Bob
 
I was just searching and reading on those brushes. A lot of people don't like them and say they create swirls and scratches. Others say they've not had a problem.

I've read the same types of comments for years... a couple of comments...

First, paint systems are different, I beat this drum a lot because

A. It's true
B. It needs to be pointed out because I'm not sure most people consider this huge factor
I don't rant on any forum but about one topic and I brought that topic up here,

What new products would you like to see introduced at SEMA?


We've all heard people describe the paint on their cars as scratching so easily that even wiping them carefully can induce swirls and scratches. At the same time there are paint systems that are a lot less prone to scratching. I've found the paint on newer Mercedes-Benz to be very scratch-resistant from normal maintenance functions plus normal wear-n-tear as an example.

Color is a factor only in that it determines how easily or how difficult it is for the human eyes to see defects. Since most vehicles have a clear coat you're never really working on a "color" but a layer of clear paint, thus the reason color isn't really an issue.

I wash my truck using a Boar's Hair Brush but the red color doesn't show scratches easily to your eyes and about 90% of the time after I wash it I'm going to buff it with something normally to test out products.

Water softens
One more comment is that if you place a piece of paper in a sink of water what happens to it after some time goes by?

It softens the paper and can even cause it to start falling apart. That's because water is a universal solvent in that with enough time it can cause many materials to dissolve.

Using this same analogy of how water can soften things... one of the tips included on the Boar's Hair Brush pages on Autogeek.net reads like this,

Detailing Tip: Soak your boar's hair wash brush in soapy water for a few minutes before use to make the hairs even softer and more pliable!

Warm water is even better for softening than cold water. Besides that, rinsing your brush often using a two bucket method or with a blast of water so any dirt removed off the car is removed off the brush before it's used on the next panel, this way you're not simply transferring dirt from one section of paint to the next section of paint inducing swirls and scratches from the dirt.



I was thinking maybe a foam gun, a boars hair brush and a rinse bucket. Use the foam gun to apply shampoo, wash a section with the brush, rinse in the rinse bucket and then move on to the next panel.

Using plenty of soapy lubrication for any type of washing is always a plus...

How you wash your car is also a factor and something I brought up on the forum in this thread,

Do you wash cars differently?


and I also brought this topic up in my e-book on pages 12, 13 and 15

EbookCarWashingPage.jpg




The big picture being that if the paint on your car is complete polished to the hilt you need to wash it carefully, not scrub the paint no matter what you're suing to loosen surface dirt.

The thing is most people don't pay close attention to "how" they are washing their car when they wash it which I also commented on in my book on page 15 under,

People Watching

Here's what I wrote,

Mike Phillips said:
People watching
If you watch the average person wash their car, you'll see they don't focus on the task at hand. This leads to rubbing their wash mitt back and forth, over and over again to the same area. There's no reason to do this. If there was dirt on the surface and did effectively loosen it, rubbing your wash mitt back and forth over and over again just grinds the dirt into the paint. This needlessly instills swirl and scratches into the paint. Focus on the task at hand and only rub your wash mitt over each section for a few passes and then move onto new territory.

The same advice would apply to whatever you're to wash your car be it a wash mitt, sponge or brush.


:)
 
I'll drive my vehicles up on ramps to do the wheels and help with polishing the sides. Only raises it about 8 inches, but every little bit helps!
 
i have an air bag jack that works with car exhaust or a compressor. lifts up one side at once puts the wheels at more of an eyelevel when i am seated. around 150 bucks if i remember. even lifts trucks but i am careful with lower plastic panels though.
 
air bag jack that runs off exhaust? seems like a sweet product!. off to google!
 
When polishing, I jack a car up about a foot on some Craftsmen jack stands. Helps ALOT. Would help for washing I am sure also.
 
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