Hose Free EcoWash vs ONR?

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I'm interested in the Chemical Guys Rinseless Hose Free EcoWash for my production/wholesale mobile car wash business as its approximately half the cost of the ONR, since it can be diluted 2x more.

How does it compare to the ONR?
 
I cannot speak for ONR, but will be placing my order this weekend to try it out.

I can speak for HFEW and besides the suds it produces, I think it's great. Have tried samples of Blackfire and Pinnacle rinseless, and I very much prefer CG HFEW. It leaves behind a good, clean surface and gives a great gloss and finish.
 
inDetail said:
UWW+ is another option
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Prolly a better option. I like that, Pinnacle, Duragloss, or even ONR. I tried CG's Eco Wash and did not care for it. That was my last adventure into their hose free products.

Really, anything from AG/PBMG in this category is very good. Just bite the bullet and buy a gallon - cost per wash is negligible. Duragloss is very good as well.
 
In my experience they work the same. The CG has more gloss I would say. The major difference for me is when the temperature drops, CG leaves a white residue where ONR does not.
 
This is the first time I've seen this term. Is this a new term for rinseless wash or just what some companies call their rinseless product
 
yeah, it's cg's marketing term for Rinseless Washing
 
inDetail said:
UWW+ is another option
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+1 - especially if doing this as a business. UWW+ is the least expensive and can be used as waterless / rinseless / clay lube / quick detailer combo. Removes the need to carry more products saving weight/gas and money.
 
I've stuck up for CG's in the past - but don't think I'll be buying anymore of their products.

The final straw is the copy from CG's copy for their Sticky Wheel Cleaner Gel (from CG's website):

"The pH neutral formula was specifically developed to work safely and effectively on virtually every wheel finish so you can use it with confidence, even on high end after market wheels."

The same statement is on AG. They may want to consider taking it down.

I stuck a pH strip in this product and it was quite basic ~ pH 11 if I recall correctly. So, the "pH neutral" statement is not correct. In fact, its a lie. I'm sure AG is just going CG's copy - so I don't plane them.

This wheel cleaner may not be safe for all finishes.

Its hard to trust anything CG's says - so I'm staying away.
 
swanicyouth said:
I've stuck up for CG's in the past - but don't think I'll be buying anymore of their products.

The final straw is the copy from CG's copy for their Sticky Wheel Cleaner Gel (from CG's website):

"The pH neutral formula was specifically developed to work safely and effectively on virtually every wheel finish so you can use it with confidence, even on high end after market wheels."

The same statement is on AG. They may want to consider taking it down.

I stuck a pH strip in this product and it was quite basic ~ pH 11 if I recall correctly. So, the "pH neutral" statement is not correct. In fact, its a lie. I'm sure AG is just going CG's copy - so I don't plane them.

This wheel cleaner may not be safe for all finishes.

Its hard to trust anything CG's says - so I'm staying away.
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Steve - Would you mind testing sticky gel again? I'm fairly sure you have the MSDS for this and that states that the pH is 8, but also indicates a couple strong alkalines in the mix. Oddly (maybe not odd for CG), the MSDS header is 105C sticky gel, but the MSDS product name is 108 sticky gel. My guess is that they were going straight off the MSDS pH, but it scares me that there area a few big inconsistency in an important safety document. Looks like more money spent on marketing, cameras and youtube videos than safety data sheets.
 
Audios S6 said:
Steve - Would you mind testing sticky gel again? I'm fairly sure you have the MSDS for this and that states that the pH is 8, but also indicates a couple strong alkalines in the mix. Oddly (maybe not odd for CG), the MSDS header is 105C sticky gel, but the MSDS product name is 108 sticky gel. My guess is that they were going straight off the MSDS pH, but it scares me that there area a few big inconsistency in an important safety document. Looks like more money spent on marketing, cameras and youtube videos than safety data sheets.
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I can rest it again - bit it's the same bottle with the same pH strips. They turned dark blue - which is very basic. I'm not even going off the MSDS - I'm going off the copy on their webpage. It clearly says "pH neutral" (7).

That is not true.

In fact, I didn't even test it "neat" - I tested it 1:5. Anyway you slice it - it's nowhere near neutral.

So, who knows what's in anything they sell and if its paint safe? Maybe their show waxes have abrasives? Maybe their polishes have fillers? Maybe their leather cleaner is just basic APC?

Who knows???

Since we (I) am on the subject, another thing that bothered me is in one of their videos. I think its in the opening credits - some dude dumped a bunch of pads on some other dudes head and they just flew all over the floor - a lot of pads.

Dunno. I don't want to buy pads from people who are tossing them all over the ground before I get them. Who knows what dirt is in those pads, who bought them - and if it messed up their polishing.

CG's: You Just Don't Know.

http://youtu.be/4EtzTiWU0AQ

Somewhere around 56 seconds & again at 1:05 a bunch of pads will hit the floor.
 
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