How abrasive is a typical glaze?

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How abrasive is a typical glaze? I'm a protect my investment guy more than a detailing hobbyist. My car's paint is in good condition. I want to minimize unnecessary grinding.

The reason I asked is that I put Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze on my car for its spring waxing. It looks terrific, and based on past experience the Collinite sticks to it really well. But its pretty clear from the directions that there is some abrasive in it.

As a ballpark proposition, what are we talking about here? Like the Duragloss All In One product? Nufinish? Meguiar's 205?

I should say that I have been told that some of the AIO products have abrasives along the lines of jeweler's rouge, that is, it can practically be disregarded as something that would wear out the clear coat. So using something like that is OK by me. But what about these mysterious glaze products?
 
A paint glaze do not have any abrasives in it its like a nutrient lotion in a sense for the paint that will only last maybe a week
 
I didn't think there were abrasives in that product, but I could be wrong. My guess is you could polish your paint 30 times with no problems. But, you won't know unless you measure.

I would not worry about it with this product, assuming your using a DA and a foam pad in a correct fashion.
 
As far as I'm concerned (AFAIC?):

•Meguiar's #07...is #1 on the list of "pure polishes"...
no abrasives whatsoever!!
(If "Kieselguhr" doesn't count, that is)
•3M Imperial Hand Glaze...is #2!!

•Have no experience with Chemical Guys EZ Creme Glaze:
-No comment.

peterhurcos said:
How abrasive is a typical glaze?  


I should say that I have been told that some of the AIO products have abrasives along the lines of jeweler's rouge, that is, it can practically be disregarded as something that would wear out the clear coat.  So using something like that is OK by me.  But what about these mysterious glaze products?
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Obtaining a product's MSDS will often reveal the presence (or not) of an abrasive; its type/name/classification; its %.

No sense using mysterious products,
if you don't want to...IMHO!

Bob
 
Glazes are meant for shine enhancement and defect filling.

Any cut involved is a byproduct of the pad its applied on.
 
jamesboyy said:
A paint glaze do not have any abrasives in it its like a nutrient lotion in a sense for the paint that will only last maybe a week
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Some may have abrasives...(see below)
FUNX725 said:
Obtaining a product's MSDS will often reveal the presence (or not) of an abrasive; its type/name/classification; its %.
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Let's take the two glazes I mentioned earlier:
FUNX725 said:
•Meguiar's #07...is #1 on the list of "pure polishes"...
no abrasives whatsoever!!
(If "Kieselguhr" doesn't count, that is)

•3M Imperial Hand Glaze...is #2!!
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Meguiar's M07 contains:
-Kieselguhr (Natural Diatomaceous Earth/N.D.E.)
-CAS# 61790-53-2
-@ 4-8% by Weight.
-Used as an inert mild abrasive, for burnishing.

3M IHG contains:
-Aluminum Silicate
-CAS# 66402-68-4
-@ 3-7% by Weight
-Used as a mild abrasive, for burnishing

•Burnishing paint, by abrasion, is:
Synonymous with "shine enhancement".


Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
Some may have abrasives...(see below)

Let's take the two glazes I mentioned earlier:

Meguiar's M07 contains:
-Kieselguhr (Natural Diatomaceous Earth/N.D.E.)
-CAS# 61790-53-2
-@ 4-8% by Weight.
-Used as an inert mild abrasive, for burnishing.

3M IHG contains:
-Aluminum Silicate
-CAS# 66402-68-4
-@ 3-7% by Weight
-Used as a mild abrasive, for burnishing

•Burnishing paint, by abrasion, is:
Synonymous with "shine enhancement".


Bob
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Did you just quote yourself?

:laughing:

That's like when I "Like" my own comments on Facebook lol
 
I think it is impossible to answer because there is no industry agreement or standard on the use of the word glaze.
 
FUNX725 said:
So glad to see the two glazes, that I've been using as examples, were in the correct column on this chart!

Bob
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Depends on who you ask.

I showed the chart to the folks at Meguiar's. They are unwilling to certify the Autopia chart as correct for their offerings. They are also, not willing to provide their own, beyond the labeling already on the bottles.
 
allenk4 said:
Depends on who you ask.

I showed the chart to the folks at Meguiar's. They are unwilling to certify the Autopia chart as correct for their offerings. They are also, not willing to provide their own, beyond the labeling already on the bottles.
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•I wasn't asking...I was declaring "my glazes" were on the chart you posted...and in the "correct column"! :)

•No need for me to ask Meguiar's to certify
anybody else's charts...
-Meguiar's is one of the few car-care products suppliers that provides easy access to their products' MSDSs.
-So does 3M!

Bob
 
I love black hole!!!!! Sorry, like it was said, check the msds on it and look for abrasives.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using AG Online
 
Thanks for posting the chart. I suspect its reasonably accurate. Chemical Guys EZ Creme glaze isn't listed, unfortunately, but I'm encouraged that CG seems to take a "truth in advertising" approach to the issue otherwise, according to the chart.

Quite a lot of the glazes if not all of them seem to have abrasives. To make matters worse, the abrasive level is soft-peddled in the advertisements usually, so you are left to guess.

As one of the posters mentioned, there doesn't seem to be a clear definition of what a "glaze" is. in the case of EZ Creme, it seems to be little different an AIO with no pretentions of durability. ( but great pretentions of shine and an implied invitation to top it with something more durable).

I'm not going to do this again until this time next year. By then there will be better information.

Thanks.
 
All the glazes I have tried have been abrasive except lime prime lite. If it has kaolin clay or kaolin dust in it trust me its abrasive, and they pretty much all contain those ingredients.
 
The other issue to consider here is:

Why use a glaze to temporarily cover up defects when they can be removed all together with paint correction? :buffing:

It wont matter if this is for you or a client, after 4-6 washes the wax will start to degrade over time and the swirls that were filled in by the glaze will reappear and the car will look as it did before applying the glaze. This means whatever issues that originally called for the glaze will still present in the paint after it is washed out.

So why spend time on applying a glaze, when you can use that time to FIX the problem?

I cant think of anything more frustrating [toward myself] than phantom defects reappearing after i believed them to be fixed. :eek: :mad: :bat: :cry:
 
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