How long do you guys work in your polishes?

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Usually when I polish I work in the polish/compound for about 1min with a DA. Anything more than 1min feels like way to long. But I hear that a lot of people work polishes in for 2-5min. I actually use a stopwatch, so I know how long I am working my polishes in for. i am thinking maybe some people that say that they work in their polishes for 2-5mins dont use a stopwatch. Now of course it matters what polish, some break down faster than others. I have always worked in polishes/compounds for about 1min, and I have never had any problems, the paint is haze free and clear, but I am thinking maybe I am not getting the amount of gloss I would be getting if I worked in my polishes longer? Advice/thoughts?
 
until they flash from a liquid paste to a cloudy powder type product that is more translucent. 2-3 minutes per area on average, and I always polish in garage under lots of flourescent lighting.
 
working in polishes has its rewards....the time also depends on the pads...

the polishes have abrasives..that when broken down fully turn into a ultra fine abrasive and then used as a finishing gloss material....if not fully broken down your missing the final step of the polish....the gloss enhancing stage....it will cut firat..as its worked it breaks down resulting in a ultra fine material...resulting in the jeweling as they say...

Al
 
I agree, working products for a bit more gives it that extra kick to the finish. Actually here is what I've noticed. Not sure if it's just me but if you look closely and I mean really closely, as you polish and just look at the surface as the polish breaks down you will see the surface flas over with the gloss. I've seen this a few times now and when I first satrted seeing this I thought it was odd but apperently this is normal.
 
I feel like XMT 1 and XMT 3 break down fast. I use speed 6 on the UDM. Then again, I need good lighting, but with the small garage lights that I have, the polishes turn translucent pretty fast.
 
I also noticed that the XMT break down fairly quickly. I'm still experimenting with the amount to use, as well.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
Are you just guessing or do you use a stop watch?
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JOD - I know you are just trying (and sometimes you are very trying) but you have the ability to ask the most illogical questions.

The contributors to this thread have said (rightly) that the polish 'flashes' (becomes translucent) when it brokendown. This is not something that can be timed with a stopwatch, as polishes will vary dependant upon what solvent / oils are used in there formulation as will the friction heat applied and the ambient temperature.

I know you will not listen to advice, but on the off chance- read, read some more and learn before making contributions to threads. Ask questions, thats how we all learn, but when given an answer by an experienced detailer don't argue unless you have facts to back up that he is misinformed, because it don't 'fit' with your limited experience dosn't make it incorrect

:cheers:
 
Pauly6401 said:
I also noticed that the XMT break down fairly quickly. I'm still experimenting with the amount to use, as well.
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Ok I am not alone :) I try not to use too much as well...the most I put is a quarter size amount.
 
TOGWT said:
polish 'flashes' (becomes translucent) when it brokendown.
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Most polishes I have tried become translucent in 30 seconds. I really matters on how much polish you put on the pad, the less you put the quicker it will turn clear. The reason I ask if people actually use stop watches is because before I used a stop watch I though I was working in the polish for 3mins. Once I actually decided to time how long I was working in the polish I discovered I was only working it in for 1min, and mind you I have a very good internal clock, for some reason I was not properly keeping time when polishing. That said I have a suspicion that if some people actually timed them selfs when they were polishing that they would discover that they are working in the polish much shorter than they thought. I don't see why you call my questions "illogical", I consider myself a very logical person and I many people that actually know me would agree. Explain what is illogical about my questions?
 
Then maybe you ought to talk with them about detailing, because I think you will find few people on this forum to agree with you being logical.
 
ASPHALT ROCKET said:
Then maybe you ought to talk with them about detailing, because I think you will find few people on this forum to agree with you being logical.
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Please, entertain me, show me how I am illogical.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
until they flash from a liquid paste to a cloudy powder type product that is more translucent. 2-3 minutes per area on average, and I always polish in garage under lots of flourescent lighting.
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I pretty much use this same technique. I'm used to work with Menzerna Polishes that I take what it gives me, and that is looong working time...
 
Well if I am using Optimum compound and polish which supposedly has a really long working time should I be working it until I see some dusting because I have never seen any dusting at all even after a couple of minutes on 5 or 6 with the UDM. I am not getting the swirl removal results that I was hoping for with the compound on an orange medium cut pad. Is this not aggressive enough for minor spider webbing marks on a 1 yr old vehicle? Yes its BLACK!!!!!!

Thanks, Pat.
 
I dont know, I can get a polish to flash over in just 1 min. I just did it last night.
 
klumzypinoy said:
Ok I am not alone :) I try not to use too much as well...the most I put is a quarter size amount.
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I've also noticed that XMT 1-4 spread a lot more over a given area than XMT 360 (when you start using that) and have a more creamy (?) consistency. I also limit myself to a quarter sized amount or less, which seems to be a good amount.
 
My XMT 3 seemed to break down a dust slightly within 1-1.5 minutes....
 
Most of my polishes are finished once I've done 15 to 30 passes
I've begun adding 10 ml of glycerine to 100ml of polish that does not have the working time that I like, such as Dinitrol 7020
The polish then spreads beautifully
 
pricha00 said:
Well if I am using Optimum compound and polish which supposedly has a really long working time should I be working it until I see some dusting because I have never seen any dusting at all even after a couple of minutes on 5 or 6 with the UDM. I am not getting the swirl removal results that I was hoping for with the compound on an orange medium cut pad. Is this not aggressive enough for minor spider webbing marks on a 1 yr old vehicle? Yes its BLACK!!!!!!

Thanks, Pat.
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It has been my personal experince that optimum has a very quick flash time. It is a very quick polsih (for lack of a better term).
Also optimum is very low dusting. Trust me;) I used some megs stuff the other day and it looked like my car was covered in snow :righton:.

As for the swirls.. i dont know, since im not there. however dependingon the pad (mediam cutting is a little diffrent with each co.) you might need to use a polishing or finshing pad as the more agresive pads may help to a point then become more of a hinderence.
Cutting pads are ment to cut and will do that.


Like i said this is just a guees. I cant say forsure since im not there.. but its my best edumacated gueess.
 
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