How to make a car as SHINY as it can? ( This case, white car ) help.

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Hello everyone,
I have a question, I am a detailer... and I want to make my car as shiny as it could get.
As seen in my picture I have a white metallic Subaru BRZ...

Yes guys, I know that for the best shine you should Wet sand and Polish and then some jeweling to make the paint bright...

I already did those steps, and Now I want to make my Car Super shiny and protected ( that it won't just go off after a few days and won't come back even after a good wash ).

I currently Own almost every Product available, and I don't mind using the best ones...

I have Swissvax concours and Shield.
I have many types of Glazes
Many types of sealants...

I have coatings ( Like Opti coat ).

Now, My question is ( and please don't answer if you don't know the answer. ):
What would be the perfect combination? :hungry:

Would 2 Coats of Glaze do any better then just the 1 ?

Would a coat of Opti coat would make the paint More impressive?

If I would apply 3 Coats of wax would I really see a difference?

If I apply more then 1 coat of sealant?.... you get the idea :xyxthumbs:

>_< Greedy Much >_< What's the best example you ask me? If a detailer has a dirty car... Well would You rather see a nice detailed car or a dirty one from your detailer ? ( Not really a question ).

Thank you guys, I am waiting for your answers, I will post pictures after the massive Application series... Im the MAN :buffing::buffing:
 
So IMO - if you are that obsessed with "the most shiny paint possible" you shouldn't have bought a white car! lol obviously darker paint appears to have more of a deep, shiny, glossy finish... white is simply bright and pure, which still looks great IMO, but it will never have the same type of depth and gloss as a darker color.

With that being said, once you have the surface defect free, it is all about increasing the slickness of the paint. I find that glaze helps tremendously with this step. I prefer CG EZ Creme Glaze (have only ever done 1 coat, so idk if 2 would be beneficial), follow this up with your favorite sealant and/or carnauba.

There is no 100% guaranteed maximum glossy formula that you are hoping to find... especially on white paint.

Don't get me wrong... white can look amazing...
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^Corrected, then EZ-Creme Followed by Black Light

it is just never quite as impressive as a dark color...
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Well I would go with 22ple as my base coat and the the swissvax on top of that.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
So IMO - if you are that obsessed with "the most shiny paint possible" you shouldn't have bought a white car! lol obviously darker paint appears to have more of a deep, shiny, glossy finish... white is simply bright and pure, which still looks great IMO, but it will never have the same type of depth and gloss as a darker color.

With that being said, once you have the surface defect free, it is all about increasing the slickness of the paint. I find that glaze helps tremendously with this step. I prefer CG EZ Creme Glaze (have only ever done 1 coat, so idk if 2 would be beneficial), follow this up with your favorite sealant and/or carnauba.

There is no 100% guaranteed maximum glossy formula that you are hoping to find... especially on white paint.

Don't get me wrong... white can look amazing...
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Ok Let me change what I wrote, I want the paint to be AS shiny as it could get / the paint will POP / the paint will look deep.... And so on...
I want the paint to be REALLY impressive...

Would a large number of coats change and make the car look nicer? or is that just a rumor ?
would OPTI Coat, Glaze then Sealant then Wax ( would opti coat change and make the car look nicer and deeper ? ).

thanks man! waiting for some more answers :hungry::hungry:
 
I personally wouldn't top a coating with anything, as you aren't likely to get much life out of whatever you top it with... 22ple is a great product on its own though.

If you want the ability to really experiment and build up layers of multiple products, I would start with a layer of glaze as a base, followed by 2 coats of sealant (with appropriate time left for curing in between layers), followed by a layer or 2 of carnauba.

That is 5-6 layers of product... anything more than that would seem pointless to me, but that is just my opinion and I have no experience to base that on... I just feel like you get to a point where there will be no visible difference no matter how many layers or products you use.
 
zmcgovern45 said:
I personally wouldn't top a coating with anything, as you aren't likely to get much life out of whatever you top it with... 22ple is a great product on its own though.

If you want the ability to really experiment and build up layers of multiple products, I would start with a layer of glaze as a base, followed by 2 coats of sealant (with appropriate time left for curing in between layers), followed by a layer or 2 of carnauba.

That is 5-6 layers of product... anything more than that would seem pointless to me, but that is just my opinion and I have no experience to base that on... I just feel like you get to a point where there will be no visible difference no matter how many layers or products you use.
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That's exactly what I thought to do actually... Great minds think alike :xyxthumbs:

I have a few good sealants what would you think to use?
Wolfgang Deep gloss paint sealant ( I was told this is Menzerna Powerlock ).
Polish Angel Master sealant ( Handmade product like Swissvax ).

Now I have a few Glazes:
CG Mirror Wet ( I Think I might choose this ).
Poorboys glaze for white cars
CG glossworkz
Clearkote Glaze
I have a few more... Forgot the name...

My Plan:
Stripping my Paint
Glaze - 1 Coat ( What should I use? Mirror wet ? )
Sealant ( Thinking of Polish Angel ) - 2 Coats
Wax - Swissvax Concours - 2 Coats
 
IMO...
Sealants give the best-looks/"pop" on White vehicles
that have been "totally-corrected", as you have done.

sasson said:
I currently Own almost every Product available...
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By any chance...Do you have any of Zaino's products?

(Some folks have claimed that they have applied upwards
of 20-25, or more, "Z"-sealant film-layers upon their vehicles.)

However...If no "Z" is readily available...

I'd go with another acrylic-sealant such as:
-The Klasse Twins (probably CarLack 68 products in Israel)
-Werkstat Acrylic Jett (Germany sourced)

Wolfgang DGPS also is an excellent sealant!
So is Menzerna Powerlock.


:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
IMO...
Sealants give the best-looks/"pop" on White vehicles
that have been "totally-corrected", as you have done.


By any chance...Do you have any of Zaino's products?

(Some folks have claimed that they have applied upwards
of 20-25, or more, "Z"-sealant film-layers upon their vehicles.) Danggggg!! lol, That would take a week or so

However...If no "Z" is readily available...

I'd go with another acrylic-sealant such as:
-The Klasse Twins (probably CarLack 68 products in Israel)
-Werkstat Acrylic Jett (Germany sourced)

Wolfgang DGPS also is an excellent sealant!
So is Menzerna Powerlock.


:)

Bob
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Thank you guys, I will take care of my car tomorrow and the day after if needed.
I will give each Coat at least 2 Hours to Cure in
 
You seem like you pretty much got it down. Glaze, 2x sealant, 2x wax. If i was nuts ill do 2x glaze too. If i was nuts and desperate ill do 3x glaze even if its a waste. Btw, I believe if apply opti coat it will reject anything that goes on top within a week. Do it and keep us update with pictures. I would love to see the final result.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I'll stick to the same thing I've been saying for years now no matter what the color of the car...

Gloss starts first with a smooth surface...


I think it's safe to say if the paint is glossy it's also shiny...

:xyxthumbs:
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That's what I said, I want EXTRA :hungry::hungry::hungry:

2 coats of each Glaze, Sealant and Wax Would do the trick?
or just 1 coat of glaze?
or 3 Coats of wax? What would u SAY if I want to be really Annoying about it... Im the MANIm the MANIm the MAN
 
dorkiedoode said:
Looks awesome but No glaze?
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I already Placed my Sealant and I said to my self... AHH...
And I thought that I might just place the glaze then another coat of sealant... but I didn't do it in the end...

Took me 12 HOURS and i did it in my shop, and I couldn't go out for 12 HOURS!!
3 Hours for the superfine Polish
20Min Sealant + 2 Hour wait + 20 min sealant
2Hour wait + 20 min wax + 2 Hours wait + 20Min wax......

And Add the time to remove wax and clean the car.... Ouch this was Really hard.... I don't really recommend this, and I am a detailer...
 
zmcgovern45 said:
I personally wouldn't top a coating with anything, as you aren't likely to get much life out of whatever you top it with... 22ple is a great product on its own though.
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I am currently testing how long wax actually stays on the 22ple. I have wax on half of my hood and half of my doors. There is no huge visible difference but maybe on a darker colored car it would make a difference. Wax normally last 6-8 weeks on my car since its parked outside. Only time will tell.
 
sasson said:
Took me 12 Hours....
Finishing Polish again, Then 2 Coats sealant ( 2 Hours wait before 2nd coat ) and 2 coats of Swissvax ( 2 hours wait before 2nd coat ).
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Looks good! Here's the picture so everyone can see it without having to click a link...

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Were you able to use any of the things you learned at our detailing boot camp class when you did this project?


:)
 
Zapa said:
I am currently testing how long wax actually stays on the 22ple. I have wax on half of my hood and half of my doors. There is no huge visible difference but maybe on a darker colored car it would make a difference. Wax normally last 6-8 weeks on my car since its parked outside. Only time will tell.
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wont it still bead though when the wax wears off? (22ple underneath)
 
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