How to photograph and capture swirls in the sun

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

How to photograph and capture swirls in the sun


Here are some tips and technique you can use to take pictures of the before condition of a detailing project and also the after condition. As you look at these pictures, note how,


First I frame up the shot so you have a good idea what it is I'm taking a photograph, (type of car), or the section of the car.

Second, I zoom in on just the topic of the picture, in this example it will be swirls


Sun on hood shot
Here I'm zoomed out and holding the camera way over my head while pointing the lens at the hood.

Close-up shot of swirls
Note my finger on the paint? While it looks like I'm pointing to the swirls and I am, the real reason my finger is in the shot is to give the camera a focus point on the hood. By focusing on my finger, the camera also focuses on the "surface" of the paint to capture the swirls and scratches on the surface. I have an article about this photography technique here.

Sun on hood shot
In this pictures we've actually turned the hot rod around as we were getting ready to move it into the garage when all of a sudden, the sun poked his head out of the clouds a little better than in the above pictures. So I took a few more shots...


Hood framed up...

Giving the camera a focus point
Here I'm about still zoomed all the way out but holding the camera a lot close to the hood now and I've moved my finger into position.

Close-up Shot
Now I'm zoomed all the way in...

Framing-up the shot
Here I wanted to show the swirls and scratches are equally distributed throughout the body panels.

Close-up Shot
For this picture, my camera is able to use the edge of the hood and the radiator shell to focus on so I don't need to use my finger for this shot.

Framing-up the shot

Close-up shot

And there you go. That's how to use your camera to take pictures to show the before condition of the paint by framing up a shot and then getting the close-up shot.

By doing this I've also documented the true condition of the paint when the car arrived.


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[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Thanks for putting this together mike. This will help people get an understanding on capturing swirls in paint.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Controlled Photography

Here's another technique for showing before and after condition of a car's paint and that is to park your project in the same place and take your pictures in the same place for the before and after pictures.

• Take the pictures around the same time each of the days
• Use the same camera.
• Use the same setting.
• Take a series of pictures from the same general area.

Basically put as many controls into place as as possible without going absolutely nuts.


That's a simple way of documenting before and after using the sun. Of course, you need the sun for it to work. Here's an example using my own truck from this thread.


1987 Chevy 4x4 Monster Truck "Before & After" Pictures


Here's the before pictures from the extreme makeover to my personal daily driver. The condition of the paint is exactly how it was when I purchased the truck. These picture were taken AFTER I washed and dried the truck, so any staining of the paint is actually a physical stain in and on the paint, not simply water drops or water smears after washing and drying.


Fair Warning --> This is going to hurt your eyes...

This is a cropped-out close-up of the sun shot above...

Some kind of crazy staining taking place all over the body panels...

Plenty of swirls to go around for all the body panels, don't want any panel feeling left out...

More pictures of the staining effect...

And besides all the cobweb type swirls and stains in the paint, to top it off someone hacked it all up through the misuse of a rotary buffer. I present the dreaded holograms...


Here's what the paint looks like when the sun hits it...

Holograms from the mis-use of a rotary buffer...

Ouch! What an eyesore!



Now here's the same truck after the buff-out parked in the same place at the same time of day and photographed in pretty much the same location.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

And here's the article reference above on how to capture defects in the paint...


How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

Due credit where credit is due
This article was originally written by me, (Mike Phillips), and posted to MeguiarsOnline on May 28th, 2006 and it can be found here,

How-To capture swirls, scratches, etchings and other surface defects with your camera

Sometimes I will try to re-write articles I have written on the Internet and sometimes it's really hard to re-write what I've already written, in these cases it's easier to share the original article and provide a link back to the originating site out of respect for the other site and the law, and for good reasons of good Netiquette. I don't like seeing my articles stolen or re-written by others and then seeing my worked presented as someone else's and wouldn't do that to anyone else.

-Mike Phillips

A few tips and techniques for helping your camera to focus on the surface so you can capture the defects in the paint you're hoping to remove.


Finger Pointing Focus Technique
Besides figuring out the right camera setting for your specific camera, another quick, simple way to help your camera focus on a defect you're trying to capture with a picture is to simply place your index finger close to the defect on or hovering over the finish then carefully captures a few pictures and in most cases you'll get a couple you can use on the Internet. This works for Swirls, Scratches, Etchings, Water Spots both Type I and Type II, Stains, Oxidation, etc. Basically anything on the surface. The reason you need to give the camera something to focus on is because often times when taking shots of a large, uniform, flat surface, once any focus points are zoomed out of the picture your camera has nothing to sense and focus on.

Detailing Clay
You can also use a little piece of detailing clay because in most cases you have some detailing clay around. If the paint is clean and it should when trying to capture pictures of surface defects, then when you're done taking your pictures you should be okay to put the little piece of clay back into the large piece you took it from or just through it away. A small piece will work fine. (See picture below).

Coin
A coin can also be used if the surface is flat and horizontal like the hood. Place the coin carefully onto the paint so as not to instill a scratch. If you already have a flawless, swirl-free finish then maybe stick with the finger or clay technique. If you're getting ready to buff the car out then as long as you're careful you'll be okay; remember you're going to be buffing out the paint and likely the defect you're trying to capture with a picture.


Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Cobweb Swirls or Cobweb-Effect

Detailing Clay
Another way to help your camera focus on a surface defect is to place something on the surface of the paint, for example in the below picture we placed a small piece of detailing clay on the paint, then let the camera auto focus and wa-la, perfectly captured swirls, scratches and a bird dropping etching in the paint.

Random, Isolated Deeper Scratch
Scratch Removed using Ultimate Compound

An Isolated Bird Dropping Etching
How To Remove a Bird Dropping Etching by Hand using M105 Ultra Cut Compound

Photos courtesy of MeguiarsOnline.com

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Thanks for all the info Mike.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Along the idea of taking pictures from the same place, that is,

• The same location on the car.
• Standing in the same place
• Using the same camera and camera settings

Here's how to capture the before and after of a test section before buffing out a car or to show dramatic differences....



Here's why you need to polish paint...


Here's a section I've taped off on the cowel because me and one of our forum members already buffed out the hood when he stopped by to test out polishers.

On the left I've clayed the paint and then machine polished it twice and then applied a coat of wax. You can clearly see the left side is now a brighter color of yellow and the right hand side has what appears to be grayish film over the paint.

Here's the same picture above with graphics....

Of course I finished polishing the rest of the car to test out some new products...

Products worked well and now the dirt staining has been removed off the entire body and a coat of Max Wax has been applied.

Hope this helps a little....


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[zmcgovern45]

Manual focus is also a great thing to learn to use when photographing defects on cars.

The camera's auto focus system uses contrast to find focus - this can be a difficult task when you are shooting a uniform scene such as a body flat body panel... hence why Mike often puts his finger into the shot (contrast against the relative uniform color of the paint) or uses a gap in between panels... but you can simply use manual focus to ensure you are focused on the surface instead of relying on the auto focus system. This is easiest when you have a tripod so the camera remains still as you focus.

 

[Kappy]

I've been trying some of your tips when taking photos of my black car outside in the driveway, and I get some really great shots of the clouds overhead when I photograph the hood, and of the garage door when I shoot the sides. The paint or the swirls themselves? Not so much. How do you cut down on the reflections?

Thanks.

 

[SR99]

Manual focus is also a great thing to learn to use when photographing defects on cars.

The camera's auto focus system uses contrast to find focus - this can be a difficult task when you are shooting a uniform scene such as a body flat body panel...

I was just about to ask Mike if he's tried manual focus.

Will a camera with phase detect auto focus have no issues focusing the swirls if the entire frame is filled with a single color?

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

I was just about to ask Mike if he's tried manual focus.

Yes. I wear glasses and using manual focus with glasses, without glasses requires the view finder also be dead on. Instead, I have my own technique called,

Fast and Furious

That is, I get in, get the shot and get out.



And I don't have all day for the volume of pictures I take so I don't want to be switching the auto focus switch back and forth and fiddling around, I've already worn out three cameras in my life in this industry.

My system works for me so that's what I share but I do agree for others, using the manual focus is an option.


I get a lot of pictures up on the Internet in linear fashion all cropped to 800 pixels wide. They never disappear and I think most of the time they tell a story.

So I'm just sharing what I do and what I know and what works for me...

 

[axel06]

thank you mike!!!!!

 

[Trindawg41]

How about showing us how to see swirls in WHITE paint. Its so difficult to see that!

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

How about showing us how to see swirls in WHITE paint. Its so difficult to see that!

I don't detail a lot of white cars as I find white kind of boring to work on... I explain this in an article on white paint in my article list. That said, here's swirls on the last two white cars I worked on...


Check out this extreme makeover, after all the work was done Jay sold this car for a $7000.00 profit.


M101 Foam Cut Compound - 1999 Trans Am Extreme Makeover at Autogeek



Using the same tips I outline in this article of, framing up the shot so your reader knows what it is you're taking close-ups of and then taking the close-up shots.

Close-up next to the hideaway headlight bucket -

Tip: Use a body line to help your camera lens to focus on the paint.

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[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Here's another white car, note that this was brand new and in pretty good shape, so there were not a lot of swirls to actually take pictures of BUT, what there was I did capture again using the same techniques outlined in the article of, framing up the shot so your reader knows what it is you're taking close-ups of and then taking the close-up shots.

Video and Pictures: 2012 Fiat 500 - Chemical Guys Show Car Makeover

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[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

This write-up for Meguiar's new thin foam pads also shows the controlled photography technique of taking the before and after pictures by parking the car in the same direction and taking the pictures at the same time of day.

Lots of before and after pictures....


NEW! Meguiar’s Foam Buffing Discs


BEFORE

AFTER

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***Bump***


Saw someone asking how to get pictures of swirls this week somewhere on this forum....


Check out this thread.