Well, finally had some nice weather here in Jersey. Was getting frustrated over how dirty the car was, spent about 4 hrs. doing out/insides but when doing a door panel with my brand new bottle of klasse vinyl/leather cleaner it dropped less than a foot. Bottle shattered, too bad same german engineering used for the stuff inside the bottle doesn't apply to the flimsy plastic bottle. Oh well, it was still a great feeling to finally work on the car (please no comments from you dp 4-1 rinseless guys). One question though, can I clay my car if I don't use a pc ?