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I noticed on one of my cars some faint iron particles its on blue paint. I am not seeing it on my other cars. Are some paints more susceptible to iron? Often are you doing iron decontamination?
 
could be different hardness on the clear coats allowing particles to more easily get embedded.
 
I'm in the midwest and use iron remover every spring.
I don't get it on any plastic and use a grout sponge to spread it,in the shade.
Then a soapy wash.
The iron particles gather behind the wheels on the body work which is where our cars start rusting out first.

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tim500 said:
how often do you use an iron remover? is it harmful to let it go?
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Usually just for quarterly decon washes.

I wound not say its harmful. I would think it would just build up over time and then a clay would be in order.

I like to keep up on things so to speak. If you notice a vehicles paint getting rough, then iron remover/decon.

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About 5-10 years ago I tried iron removers a few times primarily because of all the hype surrounding them that I had read. While they do work at removing the iron particles, I don't currently use them on a regular basis any longer.

In most cases, I feel the use of iron removers to be completely unnecessary and a waste of time and money whenever you will be claying anyways.

I think the biggest reason for the use of iron removers is because of the marketing hype that tells us that they are a necessary step... I feel that to be substantially false.

If you are going to do a thorough job claying, then that will remove any iron particles along with all of the other types of bonded contaminants, rendering the iron remover step as unnecessary.

Take my comments as you may, but they describe my experience and feelings towards iron removers pretty accurately.
 
2black1s said:
About 5-10 years ago I tried iron removers a few times primarily because of all the hype surrounding them that I had read. While they do work at removing the iron particles, I don't currently use them on a regular basis any longer.

In most cases, I feel the use of iron removers to be completely unnecessary and a waste of time and money whenever you will be claying anyways.

I think the biggest reason for the use of iron removers is because of the marketing hype that tells us that they are a necessary step... I feel that to be substantially false.

If you are going to do a thorough job claying, then that will remove any iron particles along with all of the other types of bonded contaminants, rendering the iron remover step as unnecessary.

Take my comments as you may, but they describe my experience and feelings towards iron removers pretty accurately.
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I don't clay scratches car.
 
I was always led to believe that the iron remover dissolves contamination clay cannot reach. Clay only gets what's on the surface but I guess that's just made up marketing hype.
 
tim500 said:
I don't clay scratches car.
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If you don't clay, then how do you remove the non-iron bonded contaminants?


Bill D said:
I was always led to believe that the iron remover dissolves contamination clay cannot reach. Clay only gets what's on the surface but I guess that's just made up marketing hype.
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Exactly! At least that is how I see it.

I don't buy into the claims that iron particles somehow bury themselves into the clear coat. I rather believe that they bond to the surface just like any other contaminant.
 
2black1s said:
If you don't clay, then how do you remove the non-iron bonded contaminants?




Exactly! At least that is how I see it.

I don't buy into the claims that iron particles somehow bury themselves into the clear coat. I rather believe that they bond to the surface just like any other contaminant.
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The detailing industry with products like Valugard ABC have led Ford and other vehicle manufacturers into believing contaminants can be inside, embedded in paint and therefore not being able to be fully removed by claying alone. Ford and others have even issued TSBs on the topic of chemical decontamination. I don’t know if they’ve been duped
 
The folks at Griots must really be listening because I just got an e mail from them selling all their decontamination products.
 
Bill D said:
The folks at Griots must really be listening because I just got an e mail from them selling all their decontamination products.
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Could be targeted, especially if using the alphabet search engine.



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I run a 400lb. retrieval magnet over my paint bi-yearly.

Mars the f*ck out of the paint, but it pulls all of those harmful, deeply imbedded iron particles out lickety-split!!

:rolleyes:
 
PaulMys said:
I run a 400lb. retrieval magnet over my paint bi-yearly.

Mars the f*ck out of the paint, but it pulls all of those harmful, deeply imbedded iron particles out lickety-split!!

:rolleyes:
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Never did know a dodge owner that had any brains....ha ha

Dick whistle out.

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