Just bought new toyota 4runner black..is there a wait time to polishing /clayiing.

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Hi...new black toyota is less than 1 month from port.
Im already noticing the spiderwebbing.

with a new car less than 1 month delivered from toyota to us port is there a wait time to let new paint cure prio to

claying polishing and carnuba waxing.

the suv came with "auto sealant applied" at port

also..possuble to remove spiderwebbing by hand or start with a DA?

also new to machine DA..and reading posting about ce
lear coat removal...would polishing 2x a year remove clear coat completely after 7-10-15 year?

yes..all new guy questions...appreciate the help

been hand detailing since teen but getting my head around this DA thing
 
get a DA! trust me, you'll wonder why you didn't get one sooner. no need to wait, you can go ahead and clay/polish/wax right away... :xyxthumbs:

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I apologize for this one comment: Why the hell did you buy BLACK??????????????????????????????

You will need a polisher to level paint - The paint is already cured. Protection is the only thing that you would have to wait on new paint. You can polish fresh paint right away. (for future reference)

Possible to remove clear in 5 seconds, but in 2016, we have products available that can protect the finish permanently. Or semi permanently - up to 3 years like Optimum Gloss Coat. So there is no reason to polish cars often.
 
Congrats on the new ride. Welcome to the world of black too. :)

Get a DA Polisher and appropriate polishing pads. My recommendation would be to:

Wash
Iron-X decontaminate it
Baggie Test - see if clay/Nano Sponge is needed or not
Polish
Seal it up. Being a black SUV is a PIA to keep perfect, I'd coat it. McKee's or PBL are cost effective and easy as can be to use.
 
Toolhead said:
Hi...new black toyota is less than 1 month from port.
Im already noticing the spiderwebbing.

with a new car less than 1 month delivered from toyota to us port is there a wait time to let new paint cure prio to

claying polishing and carnuba waxing.

the suv came with "auto sealant applied" at port

also..possuble to remove spiderwebbing by hand or start with a DA?

also new to machine DA..and reading posting about ce
lear coat removal...would polishing 2x a year remove clear coat completely after 7-10-15 year?

yes..all new guy questions...appreciate the help

been hand detailing since teen but getting my head around this DA thing
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you can make that truck beautiful with hand polishing alone.Wash it real good light clay and be gentle.apply a glaze then a really nice product such as collinite.Being easy with your wash methods will get you far.Even though a da is pretty easy to use,I would buy it a practice on something.If you feel you are confident,griots finishing glaze with a medium cut foam pad will yield awesome results .Then top it off with powerlock sealant or hi temp wax for 17.99 .Buy some tape to control splatter on trim and cowls this is a promblem for beginners .Use a fine clay after your first intial wash.good luck have some fun and take your time .
 
You can only hide imperfections by hand,by using glazes and carnauba waxes or a cleaner wax.we don't know what kind of condition it's in .So safe to say start with hand application and practice with a da.As time goes along you can pickup and master the skill in one month easily with a da.
 
Lots of good answers so far but to answer your question of clearcoat degradation over a number of years of buffing and polishing...don't worry about that. Proper use of a DA for many years removes so little paint you are good for the life of the vehicle. That's not to say frequent compounding with heavy cut pads would be advised but you shouldn't need to with proper washing and drying techniques.

Congrats on the new ride and from a fellow black vehicle owner, there's NOTHING better looking than mirror black! (just my opinion).
 
Thanks guys..lots of helpful suggestions.

Agreed..ill practice the DA on another vehicle before hitting the new ride and black was 100% the only color i would buy. Yes PIA to maintain but at the age where its gona be an enjoyable hobby and great excuse to spend more time in the garage....... (and buy more tools and accessories)

Okay back to detailing...

One member mentioned waiting on the sealant..
I grew up always hearing and oracticing not to wax a new car for at least six months.

Again..this vin# came fresh from toyota port about 3 weeks ago. ( i know that some "new cars" may actually be 6-8 months on a dealer lot..but this vin is 3 weeks fresh from port so im thinking about 1 month shipped from toyota.

Should i wait for to paste carnuba wax and if so how long.
 
I would be safe to say seal or wax.I don't foresee any promblems,but then again it's not my car so do as you wish and good luck with the new ride.
 
GSKR said:
I would be safe to say seal or wax.I don't foresee any promblems,but then again it's not my car so do as you wish and good luck with the new ride.
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Thanks...and i just read the philips thread another member posted...

Ill give up the old folklore...besides the sticker does say exterior sealant was already applied...so its already been sealed (with a lot of spiderweb scratching).

Thanks for all the tips everyone
 
EVERY NEW CAR IS BAKED AT THE FACTORY. No reason to wait. If you delay protecting paint for 6 months, you will end up with etched paint from bugs, bird poop etc...

Toolhead said:
Thanks guys..lots of helpful suggestions.

Agreed..ill practice the DA on another vehicle before hitting the new ride and black was 100% the only color i would buy. Yes PIA to maintain but at the age where its gona be an enjoyable hobby and great excuse to spend more time in the garage....... (and buy more tools and accessories)

Okay back to detailing...

One member mentioned waiting on the sealant..
I grew up always hearing and oracticing not to wax a new car for at least six months.

Again..this vin# came fresh from toyota port about 3 weeks ago. ( i know that some "new cars" may actually be 6-8 months on a dealer lot..but this vin is 3 weeks fresh from port so im thinking about 1 month shipped from toyota.

Should i wait for to paste carnuba wax and if so how long.
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Toolhead said:
I grew up always hearing and practicing not to wax a new car for at least six months.
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The paint is fully cured at the time the vehicle leaves the factory. It's possible in the aftermarket what is used at a body shop could take a little longer, but for the most part you're talking about catalyzed paints with low solvent content even there.

Toolhead said:
besides the sticker does say exterior sealant was already applied...so its already been sealed (with a lot of spiderweb scratching).
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I'd say that was from the dealer washing the car.
 
Owning a black car helped me refine my skills immensely. Black paint lets you see what's effective and what's not. Sure, it's a PITA to maintain perfectly but it helped me in every aspect of machine polishing AND washing/drying. It allowed me to see how subtle changes in pad, product, machine speed, arm speed etc either improved the finish or not. It also showed me how to get right down aggressive to fix some marring. It showed me the specifics of washing and then drying with "friction passes". Yes, i have learned not to touch the paint aggressively however i learned which particular actions were most damaging and altered my techniques. I think my only regret is not seeing how much ferrous crap is removed with Iron X! I do my wife's white Altima for that.

I have learned a lot from owning a black vehicle and those lessons are applied to my customers as well.

I've listened for years to how most say "owning black is a lot of work" or "it's a full time job". It might be initially while you're learning what keeps it in top condition but i know exactly what works well on mine and it is a lot less work when you learn the right way to maintain it. Plus the fact i LOVE the look of mirrored black! It's a great teacher and makes me proud to show it to potential customers. I have learned a great deal from AG, this forum and practicing on my black paint. I consider owning black as my Doctorate Thesis in Detailing.
 
Toolhead said:
Coat..meaning sealant?
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Go to the AG store and type in "coating" - any of those products will provide superior protection and are way more durable than traditional sealants or waxes. They also cure harder and will help prevent wash induced swirling.
 
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